OK, here is the verdict, the scabbard is DEFINITELY not an e-pack. Thus the mismatch between the scabbard and lower crossguard fit. Pack crossguards were unique and don't fit other things. The cross guards and handle probably are e-pack. The etch IF REAL is poor in quality. That is all I need to know because this dagger was sold as all original and untouched and that is definitely not the case in the opinion of two reviewers. It goes back for a refund. I will be quite open about how that turns out. Thanks everyone. David