~ next this 2nd example..
Much better. BUT, still wouldn't fool many with a little experience and if you just look hard. The knob is almost there,but flat and mushy,,no definition
Still a shallow design,,loaded with pock marks/faults.. These rings are mostly advertised as 'Ground Dug'. They almost look the part,,but the condition is not from being in the ground,,its from being poorly cast...

Next, I'll search for a photo of a superfake of this pattern..

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