Bret,

Most 2nd model Leaders daggers are converted 1st model daggers. The very early ones show waffenamt marks on the crossguard ends, possibly the scabbard throat too. These will have nickel crossguards, most 2nd model leaders I’ve seen have had nickel hardware.

Occasionally you’ll find a Leader dagger with a bright, obvioysly aluminum guard and pommel. These are unquestionably true 2nd model daggers not converted from earlier pieces. The few I’ve encountered were either Ernst Witte marked or unmarked.

Sorry that I can’t help on specifics for the rolling out of the daggers.


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