The clip on the C. Linder seems OK from that shot. Maybe the SA guy got his dagger issued late or wore it with the the short strap hanger for a while before getting the vertical.
The SA F. Herder has the correct trademark for an SA dagger. Look at the writing on the upper scabbard - it looks done with with a vibrating pencil ? Also the hanger leather looks in almost new shape while the clip and buckle and dagger fittings are very toned.
