Same with the Pirate ring.. I know who ownes the die for that ring.. He's not in to the internet, doesn't care what people think,,so believe me or not there IS a die for that ring,,,and I do have a photo with permission only to use in my book.

But I have these ,,these are very early ,,for the solid back rings,,very hard to have the rear piece!,,this isn't for a cast,,these go in a press!

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