Wotan

Thank you for the clarification it really was very helpful, just trying to find a colour picture of the knot is difficult so I thank you for providing me with this lovely example, I'll have to keep my eyes out for one. What do you think of this knot, it came with the Richard Herder tag which I cannot remove without cutting the tie on the strap, I do know that Helmut Weitze sold one of these not long ago as a variation Prison officials(without tag), I do not know whether this knot relates to the prison service myself but it does feel and look original, the weave is nice and tight on the ball, it has an aged look and smell to it, I didn't pay a great deal for it, I brought it mainly for the tag which is one I have never seen before.

FSMC
Thank you also for the clarification.

Gary

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