as a dagger collector i personally would not bee too keen about the first one
the runes roundel is obviously from a ss dagger
but the reverse of the roundel which can be seen through the broche has the appearance of the fake roundels
Even more it is well known that Heini has had a very attentive eye on these roundels and there has been a Runderlass which threatens by punisment the use of those roundels on any other item than ss daggers
regards

wotan, gd.c-b#105

"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.