Thanks Terry, will do , I also like the scabbard minus the retaining screw , for many years I was on here but can't remember log in details and no longer use the email attached to it etc so I thought i'd start again, I remember talking with billyg regarding JHW-E seen on fire bayos i believe at the time myself and billy were the only owners of such a marked piece and again no reference , however many years after that conversation whilst researching something completely different I stumble upon a pic of a dept store with neon letters JHW-E ! but that's it lol