hi mark
thanks for your honest opinion the word you used crud is mild compared to what i wiould have used i have collected pocket watches for over 45 years so i believe i have a good feel as to what a real period third reich watch or kreigs clocks should look like quality not quanity most come from poland/france and outher countrys when they first produced these watches they used real gut parts with a fancy ss /kreigs porcelain dial nice looking but not period made doubt if we will hear any thing from the poster any more thanks god bless andy militarynut