Hello, i am trying to find the orgin name or title of this ring..from what i can tell this is a post war knock off of a totenkopf ring i belive these were made in late 47-48 in the underground market as a subsitute deaths head ring built up from desriptions of the orginials since no actual ss rings were to be found.. ive heard name otto gahr attached to them.but otto gahr is only involved in the transtional to end phase of orginal rings ive seen discriptions of them as leibstandarte and panzer lassh ect ect every time i get close to finding one the disapear ..they usallly found with the my honor is loyalty and himmler sig plastred on the inside i belive their called flat band honor rings?any further information on these bizzare one offs?