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Hi Dave.
It isn't sure that I will be able correctly to introduce in English the idea, but I will try.
The emblem at daggers points which I saw less by the size than that which we see at daggers points HJ.Krask on emblems falls off often, such impression that on a sign beat. I couldn't understand why so occurs and sorted two daggers. In photos I will try to show everything, the tin remains are well visible, the emblem is taken from an early badge of the member of HJ, to RZM.
I can't prove when these knifes were made, but I assume that it is early knifes or are made for one organization under the order.