Herman,why you surprised? confused
I'm not only one,who believe they are real,i just say my opinion.
I have seen them always on late war,after 1938 pieces and always without motto.
Logically,if they are fakes,why we don't see them on transitional 1837,1938 knives,which they have same size of the diamond.
IMO they used them after 1939.
And I think that they don't care,back then, if they install full red diamond or regular.

Please,don't talk about someone who is not involved in this discussion.I know lot of dealers,who sell more expensive HJs in same condition.

Regards
Stingray