Originally Posted By: richkuch43@aol.com
Forum,

I hoped you enjoyed the post of the Guard's Helmet from the Steyer Works along with the SS 84/98 Double Stamp Bayonet/ Single Rune.

My opinion is that the Single Rune 84/98 Bayonet was assembled at the Styer Works for the SS to go along with SS rifles being supplied as per order of Himmler.

The SS Double Stamp / Single Rune is on a WKC Blanko Blade. It is my opinion as well as other SS Weapons collectors that WKC also furnished just blades which were then assembled into bayonets at work camps & factories such as Styer.

A factor that has continuously come up during our discussions is that a WKC should have plastic grips. Wooden grips could more easily be fabricated in a Work Camp than plastic grips that require a sosphicated molding machine along with die maintenance. The wooden grips are almost always dated and property stamped.

The particular double stamped bayonet with single rune has markings in the grips reflecting 1943. This is too much of any possible coincidence.

I have also had posted a picture of a BNZ 43 Single Rune Rifle along with the bayonet that it came with. This rifle was traded to Robert Jensen for a Death Head Luger many years back. The Death Head Luger is one of the two that I had posted along with a Lazy S over TK Death Head. Robert Jensen was a gun writer and collector and he firmily believed that the Death Head Luger was an SS Weapon from the WW11 period.

Richard Kuchta

Richard,

Berg, Coppel, Eickhorn, R. Herder, Hörster, WKC and I'm sure some others that don’t immediately come to mind, all used wood or plastic for later production at some point after the black grips were first introduced. What was reported is what is normally seen with some OEM factory production, and it is generally a time sensitive matter. None of the Solingen makers made their own plastic grips, they were all subcontracted. The significance of the Type 41 plastic is that it was formulated to conserve the use of the chemicals used in production.

And if I may ask. I don’t think that we ever saw the 98K wood 1945 dated grips (or obverse side markings if present). Are the markings otherwise identical to those you’ve posted or are they different? And if so, how are they different?

PS: What you saw earlier about the camp was the result of my searching the Internet. And I have to go back and see what information came from what site. Because I abstracted portions of the data as I went along from one to the next. When I have it all put back together with the appropriate links I will repost.

Best Regards, FP