Hello,
Roger, thank you very much for that information. I have done some searching on the web and have not found out too much. The marking on the larger stein...if I am correct is to a maker named Simon peter Gerz I believe(?). The damage on the larger stein is, at least to me very minor but still as you say I'm sure it would affect the value. I will do some more checking so that I can get at least a ballpark idea as to value. Again I thank you for your help and any other information you might come across is welcome. Also anyone else that may have some info, it is always welcomed. Again your help is much appreciated. Thanks again
Duzig(Bill)