Roger, in essence I believe you and I agree on the shield and crown. I am no expert and am more than happy to bow to more knowledgable folks. You are certainly correct in stating that any search in this field can be TEDIOUS to say the least. I can't say how many hours I sat in the library of congress looking through volume after volune to no avail. Having said that I assure everyone that crown means something as you point out. David
