Alas I'm not alone Wink. I will always view these as a black heers dagger and a black luft until the evident show positive proof to the contrary. Not all of us will believe everything in the books, of sales catalogs. Why sould people have to believe something that is not proven, and I think its an issue Manfred these are highly questionable and I would be a hypocrite if I owned one, just because the big dogs say so. I collect for the history and to this point these can't even prove their history so in my opinion are not worthy to collect in my field of collecting. Smile The collector that collects to have more or to just spend money, they may love one.(there is nothing wrong with that Wink )