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Ernst L. Muller example...

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Reverse...

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Here is one of my Junckers...

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And the back...

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Fischer, very nice. Smile
Something special about the hollow backs that I like.

--dj--Joe


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Here is my other Juncker...

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And the back...

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quote:
Originally posted by Dean Perdue:
Here's an unmarked one(at least as far as I know).
Does it look right?
Thanks


Hello

This example so far is an unknown maker referred to by collectors as the Deformed Leaf Variant. These come in three different style hardware set ups. An Oval Crimp, Vertical Crimp and like this one a Block Hinge.


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Bronze Hollowback - Unmarked (If you know the maker please advise me) Note the cut outs in the Swastika

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Back

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Another Bronze Hollowback, unmarked

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Back of 2nd Br Hollowback

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GWL Silver Front (By the way, does anyone know the full name of this company?)

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GWL Back - Note the owner's initials roughly inscribed on lower right side of wreath

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Another Sohni, Heubach und Co in Silver

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SHuCo back

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ShuCo marking

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Carefully Denazified silver example - unmarked

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Denazified back

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Hollowback silver - not marked (sorry about picture quality)

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Hb Silver Back

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Early Juncker, with cut out swastika

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Juncker back

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Juncker marking

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Another unmarked silver

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Unmarked silver back

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Funk und Brüninghaus silver

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Funk und Brüninghaus back

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Funk und Brüninghaus marking

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Yet another Sohni, Heubach und Co Silver

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Another SHuCo back

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Another SHuCo marking

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Hollowback silver - unmarked

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This Hb Silver back

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Yet another unmarked silver

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AUSSIEDAVE...i would posit that the CEJ and the L/56 are reproductions due to the pin,catch,and probably the hinge also,,,as well as the CEJ marking and the oblong area resereved for the catch on the l/56

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This unmarked silver back

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I think thats enough for now. I would appreciate if any of you award gurus can identify makers of mine, where they are unmarked.

Thanks for any effort expended, in advance.

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quote:
Originally posted by militarymania:
AUSSIEDAVE...i would posit that the CEJ and the L/56 are reproductions due to the pin,catch,and probably the hinge also,,,as well as the CEJ marking and the oblong area resereved for the catch on the l/56


Whilst the L/56 would not surprise me, the CEJ has been in my collection for over 30 years. When I bought it, IAB's weren't particularly expensive and seldom faked. A silver washed IAB fake, while more common now, was pretty unusual then.

As a Berlin firm, CEJ was often one of the first to produce awards, and I have always thought this was a very early example. The extra effort of cutting out the swastika, on an award often issued, intrigued me.

Of course, I could be wrong.

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Hello David

In my opinion most of these IAB's are fake. Several badges have the look of castings and hardware set ups are wrong. A couple are fantasy pieces that are sold for reenactor's.

Badge #1
This bronze hollow example with the cut out swazy is a fake based on the Hymmen variant. Hymmen never made a badge like this.

Badge #2
This is a fantasy badge made for reenactor's and is thought ot have originated out of the U.K. in the seventies.

Badge #3
These GWL's have been copied pretty well but have some faults with the hardware and the pitted surface. IMO this one is a cast fake.

Badge #4
This 4 vein ShuCo I am not sure about, better pics would help with a straight shot of the badge with the eagle in full view. IMO the hardware is not correct for this example and has been replaced at some point.

Badge #5
This looks to be an unmarked Frank & Reif example with the swazy removed. The softness of the details especially the acorns has me suspect about this example. The catch has been replaced.

Badge #6
This example looks to be a good hollow zinc Deumer. Hard to tell with these pics...Is the catch still intact?

Badge #7
This Juncker marked badge is also a fake IMO. The obverse is based on the Franke & Co or FCL IAB design.

Badge #8
This one as well is a cast fantasy fake loosely based on the FLL variant IMO.

Badge #9
This Funke & Bruninghaus L/56 is also IMO a cast fake. Details are wrong, casting ring with flash around wreath, etc. and the hardware is not correct for this maker.

Badge #10
This ShuCo looks good but better pics would help. The catch has been reattached.

Badge #11
This looks to be a hollow attributed ShuCo design. These were made out of steel and zinc. Is it magnetic?

Badge #12
This looks to be a good Steinhauer & Luck. This is considered a rare variant with this set up. Wish the pics were better.

Just my opinions.


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