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I shows you today means chained SS dolch,

sabazius

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It looks like someone sprayed undercoating on the chain and scabbard. If I where you I would clean the fittings and chain of with paint remover then polish up nice with semi chrome. It seems to look correct beside that which they probably used to hide pitting? Your luck at least you have a Chained SS. I wondn't feel restoration would be out of question on this since it obvously is not original finish on the fittings and scabbard, it was pobably stored in a damp place thous you have all that pitting.

the dagger before

A good soak in CLR rust and lime remover would have (and still might) cleaned up that chain nicely. Then at least you will have a $5oo.oo chain and fitting or higher. cheers, Ryan

WOW! What is the story behind this one? Was it found buried in the ground or what? Kind of neat in its own way...

Now that is one tired old dagger!

Rebirthed...

Looks like you did the best you could with what you had to work with.

Brickie's right. Sometimes, you have to let dead dogs lie.

Wow, I've never seen a dagger that subjected to the elements before! You did a pretty good job with cleaning it Sab, you may be able to do more cleaning. I'd be carefull with it.

If they are nickle silver fittings they can be buffed and polished back to a shine and the same with the chain if it is nickle silver. I don't think it is a dead dog but furter restoration by a skilled restorer could make leaps and bounds for this dagger. And that is not meant to impute your handy work on it, because it looks better then it did. It could look really good if the right things were done. I wish I owned it as I love doing things like that even though theres people that are much better then me!

I think Himmler would be highly agitated if one of his men showed up at formation wearing that dagger!

i am curious as to were this dagger was found?also it looks like severe rust pits on the chain and scabbord,but if so why nickel silver fittings but a plated chain?or is it a build up of heavy oxidation?looks like really bad pitting to me.if thats the case what can you really do with the chain,if you polish it enought to get the pits out there wont be much detail left,then it would need plated again.
mark

hello

the dolch was found hidden in old barracks, at the roof
those chains and the middle fitting is from iron,
the remaining would fit and the crosgards from nickel

sabazius

I agree that you did the best possible with the condition. Very cool piece, although everyone agrees that the condition leaves alot to be desired, I would also say that if you look closely you can see ALOT of history, and if you look really close, you may find a very interesting story as well. Congrats!

I'm serious a couple of hours soaking in CLR would have done the chain and center ramp wonders. cheers, Ryan

I agree with Ryan more could be done to the fittings without a doubt and even to the stuff like the SS button you could clean it and apply real enamel it would not look 100% period but would look better then paint over the whole thing and the guards could be cleaned to shine alittle bit again if they Nickle Silver, I have seen worse conditioned daggers to begin with and they have turned out looking great it takes time and some TLC but it would be worth it. Because as of now this SS looks wrong and alittle of the right tips from the right person could have it looking much more period looking, what is it going to hurt?

There is a place in every collection for pieces like this one. Cleaned or not, it still talks of the period. To me, condition is not always everything.
Do you have some more pics of the dagger before you cleaned it?

Regards
Russell

I like it! It has the look of being quickly hidden to hide the evidence. Rough but nice. Charlie

I have to say that is a great job on the restoration!

I must say the more I look at the original pics. before restoration the more I like them. Not that I think you should not have restored it, I think it was a GREAT job. Just those original pics. really give you a creepy feeling. very historical, very metaphoric...

Yes I can see the movie SS tales from the crypt. With dead troopers that are all bone now attacking the living with there old M36 dangling from its side.

Easy Adam, now you are beginning to sound as though you are writing a description of somthing you are selling on ebay!

Damn you caught me, my covers blown

A piece like that really fires the imagination & has an almost tangible story that it carries with it. As such there is a value here over & above its condition. I think that you were right to clean it as you have done (who could resist) but would not recommend doing anything more as it may destroy the charachter that it has. This is an excellent reminder that collecting isn`t just about a "minty" this or that.

Congratulations on a very interesting dagger
& thank you for sharing it, you should cherish it.