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#96599 01/15/2006 01:28 AM
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I am buying an SS dagger that was denazifed by remoming the runes & eagle from grip. NPEA dagger is missing scabbard. Any ideas where I might find them.

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You can try here, on military websites and certain auction sites.

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Hello ncraig,welcome to the forum,If you are buying the daggers you describe and do not know where they are ,I do'nt think anyone else will know.
are you sure you phrased your question right,Regards nats

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Maybe I misread? Are you looking for a replacement or the original items?

Replacements as I've mentioned. Originals to the pieces would have been destroyed.

Welcome to the forum by the way...

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Sorry I mean I am looking for replacements for the missing parts. would like orginal, but may be forced to use repro. If I can find them.

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SS dagger

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#96605 01/15/2006 04:23 AM
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would even like to find out if anyone could do anything thing for the blade.If not I will live with it like this.For 25 years I wanted one.This one must have real history.It was found in an atic in Austria.

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You should email Manfred the Magician(mvogel), here on the forum I'm sure he could work wonders on it. Although I heard he prefers to work on stuff in the summer since his work area is not heated, but you would still need to find the SS ruins button which may be hard to find, and you also need an eagle which are readly available on Tom Johnson site I believe, since SA & SS eagle on dagger are the same they are pretty available. I think in the condition that dagger is in, although an original SS it was extensively damage postwar and a postwar restoration would only increase its value. IMHO

Pulled from T.J. site.
SA/SS/NSKK Grip Eagle.
MINT (Aluminum, for use w/RZM-marked daggers) (5842) $35.@
MINT (Pot metal, late war) (6304) 15.@
MINT (Aluminum w/o attaching prongs) (18963) $15.@
Here is the link to his web page.
Johnson Reference Books and Militaria
Its under Accouterments and Parts Then Pommels, hilts, grips, crossguards

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Hello ncraig,you could try lakesidetrader,I know he has eagles,and I'am sure he can help you weth the runes,the proper scabbard will probably be harder to findRegards nats

http://www.lakesidetrader.com/edgedweapons.html

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The blade is pretty far gone leaving little of the motto left to work with. If it were mine, I would gently wipe it down very carefully with a old clean terrycloth towel, put Ren Wax on the whole thing, scabbard, grip and blade and leave it as it is, and display it out of the scabbard. If you rub it too hard you will remove the remaining plating from the scabbard parts as they are plated as all RZM era daggers were. That dagger is about as good as you are ever going to see it in my humble opinion. I have not seen one so worn that the motto is almost gone like that in a long while. In it's own right, it is very nice and decent. No show queen for sure, but SS nonetheless.

I would replace the eagle and SS runes though through the sources mentioned above. The dents will come out of the scabbard and you can get Manfred to replace the missing scabbard screws.

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