#92827
06/14/2007 01:03 AM
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Opinions on this 15 year nsdap long service medal would be appreciated. I have noticed that above the fur some medals have one dot above the u and some have 2 dots! Is this correct for different makers Cecked the ribbon with a blacklight and does not glow. Front SSman
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#92828
06/14/2007 01:03 AM
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#92829
06/14/2007 01:04 AM
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#92830
06/14/2007 03:20 AM
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I would pass based on the photos. The enamel looks too dark and the silver on real ones is quite glittery - not easily tarnished. I've never seen veins on the wreath leaves shown on the front here.
I mentioned in another thread that the smaller rays have very pointy ends in originals while fakes tend to have blunt ends. These ones look too blunt.
Cheers,
Stephen Gold Party Pin Website: http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB
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#92831
06/14/2007 03:41 AM
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The details look a little waxy,,,and,,did any maker make them with the ring thru the frame like that?!
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#92832
06/14/2007 04:31 AM
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This to me looks like a good copy from the 70's. They were highly reproduced back then.
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#92833
06/14/2007 06:35 AM
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Thanks for the opinions guys. Not real but still a nice looking medal. SSman
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#92834
06/16/2007 02:49 PM
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Rod, I take it you plan to keep it. Here are some comparison images of mine darkened down. --dj--Joe
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#92835
06/16/2007 02:50 PM
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Reverse. --dj--Joe
22.JPG (41.84 KB, 99 downloads)
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#92836
06/16/2007 03:02 PM
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I agree with Ed - 1970s copy. The oakleaf wreath should have fairly smooth leaves with a single raised centre spine. Yours has extra veins.
First, here's mine (a little overexposed).
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Stephen Gold Party Pin Website: http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB
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#92837
06/16/2007 03:07 PM
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Here's a blow up of your leaves (bottom right corner) showing the extra veins.
Cheers,
Stephen Gold Party Pin Website: http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB
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#92838
06/16/2007 03:17 PM
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Thanks for the pictures Joe and Stephen. I see what you mean about the extra veins Stephen. At least showing a replica might help other collectors what to look for? SSman
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#92839
07/25/2007 08:41 PM
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Just found a flawed but impressive fake for sale. First, the front:
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Stephen Gold Party Pin Website: http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB
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#92840
07/25/2007 08:44 PM
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Cheers,
Stephen Gold Party Pin Website: http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB
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#92841
07/25/2007 08:47 PM
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And the box, which would make most buyers think this is the real deal, but look more closely...
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Stephen Gold Party Pin Website: http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB
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#92842
07/25/2007 08:48 PM
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Stephen, thanks for posting it!
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#92843
07/25/2007 08:51 PM
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R2M??
The fakers can't read and have mistaken the Z in the RZM logo for a number "2". Boneheads.
Not only that but the RZM logo doesn't have the circle touching the bottom legs of the M with a gap in between.
All in all, the medal looks pretty good, although the eagle's shoulders are too high and the rays between the cross arms aren't quite right.
Still, could easily fool most collectors.
Cheers,
Stephen Gold Party Pin Website: http://pages.interlog.com/~sjl/GPB
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#92844
07/25/2007 09:58 PM
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These are pretty easy to tell that they are fake. Here's my Juncker example.
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