#92800
05/07/2007 04:28 PM
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My main concern is the crimps. The buckle looks pretty good otherwise, but I'm no expert on the markings. Any information is appreciated.
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#92801
05/07/2007 04:31 PM
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#92802
05/14/2007 05:12 PM
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Not long ago, I posted elsewhere a thread entitled "Peeved." Briefly, it was to note the lack of response when assistance was asked to confirm authenticity of an item. Some other members responded they have had similar experiences, while others gave their opinions as to why such a problem exists. A few seemed to want to minimize my observation. I see in the B&B forum at least two other members received responses to their questions about SS buckles somewhat promptly, while this thread and my question have no response. There are very clear photos posted, so an examination of the appearance of the buckle should be no problem. I am in no way criticing the other "posters," nor those who responded to their posts. I was interested in buying the buckle depicted here and had a chance to do so. However, I did have reservations about it and that is why I posted the thread. The opportunity to buy, fortunately or unfortunately, as the case may be, has passed. I am at a loss to understand why the experts and even the "experts," who seem to have great knowledge of these buckles, failed to assist me when their help was sought. Even a "could go either way" or "darned if I know" would have been of some assistance. This is not the first occasion this sort of thing has occurred and it is by no means limited to the B&B forum. I fully understand and appreciate there is no requirement to respond to any post on GDC. However, I am at a loss to understand why help was not received when asked for.
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#92803
05/15/2007 12:32 AM
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I would not buy this buckle as I see it not as an original OLC piece.
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#92804
05/15/2007 11:25 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Grumpy:
Not long ago, I posted elsewhere a thread entitled "Peeved." Briefly, it was to note the lack of response when assistance was asked to confirm authenticity of an item. Some other members responded they have had similar experiences, while others gave their opinions as to why such a problem exists. A few seemed to want to minimize my observation. I see in the B&B forum at least two other members received responses to their questions about SS buckles somewhat promptly, while this thread and my question have no response. There are very clear photos posted, so an examination of the appearance of the buckle should be no problem. I am in no way criticing the other "posters," nor those who responded to their posts. I was interested in buying the buckle depicted here and had a chance to do so. However, I did have reservations about it and that is why I posted the thread. The opportunity to buy, fortunately or unfortunately, as the case may be, has passed. I am at a loss to understand why the experts and even the "experts," who seem to have great knowledge of these buckles, failed to assist me when their help was sought. Even a "could go either way" or "darned if I know" would have been of some assistance. This is not the first occasion this sort of thing has occurred and it is by no means limited to the B&B forum. I fully understand and appreciate there is no requirement to respond to any post on GDC. However, I am at a loss to understand why help was not received when asked for.
Probably an original but I will not dare to give a 100% call based on those photos. This buckle has a very particuliar feature which NEEDS to be carefuly checked! Without strong confirmation performed by someone having the buckle in his/her hands (so been able to check in person since I doubt a photographic close up could bring the evidence) it is kind of impossible to tell for sure. Back in 2003 some close to perfect fake zinc 43's were already seldom seen. This one does not show their quick give away (from a photo) but ... that was four years ago.
Jean Pierre Redeuilh
Currently selling ALL my collection of SS buckles !
Gold GDC Badge # 0244 & Silver # 0302
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#92805
05/15/2007 05:30 PM
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Thank you, Jean Pierre. I do not know the history of fake SS buckles, as you do. My feeling is it is possible it is authentic, but somewhat questionable. The seller, of course, was advertising it as authentic. I did not want to spend considerable money on what later would be deemed a fake. If I could have bought it at a "fake" price, I would have done so. I suspect it may well remain controversial as time passes. Not the kind of thing, for me, anyway, to spend hundreds of dollars on and continue to wonder and worry about it.
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