#92679
02/17/2006 12:23 AM
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The famous German falconry hunting clubs are not alone in this sport of hunting with birds. It is a world wide sport of many countries from the mountains to the deserts of the world. I would like to have more information to go on than the little bit I have been able to find so far. The word GREIFVOGEL is the German word for Bird of Prey. This blade was manufactured by “F. HERDER ABR. SOHN SOLINGEN”. I do not know if the black spade on the imprint is part of their trademark or if it means something in addition to this blade. The slim carbine blade is in mint condition along with the rest of the bayonet. The fittings are silvered and the scabbard is in excellent condition. It was like finding something swept under the rug to come out for my collection of hunting pieces and engraved bayonets. I have tried to give you some close up pictures of details. I do not know what the black grip is made out of .
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#92680
02/17/2006 12:25 AM
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#92681
02/17/2006 12:26 AM
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#92682
02/17/2006 12:29 AM
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Photo #4 There is a ton of information on the web if you type GERMAN FALCONRY in your address bar.
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#92683
02/17/2006 12:31 AM
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The spade is part of the trademark.
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#92684
02/17/2006 12:31 AM
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#92685
02/17/2006 12:34 AM
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Photo #6 Houston has the greatest collection of bird presentation bayonets you will ever see. Maybe he will show some of them again on this post.
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#92686
02/17/2006 12:38 AM
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Photo #7 (last photo) A group of other bird head Hirschfangers that are flying around at all the great military and gun shows. If you have an addition please add it to this post.
Thanks for looking. Sincerely, HUBERTUS
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#92687
02/17/2006 01:51 AM
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Ralph,
As always..great stuff...thanks for showing....
Regards,
Lou Bell
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#92688
02/17/2006 01:51 AM
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Hello Ralph FYI, the spade was one of many trademarks used by the Friedrich Herder firm. Nice piece!
WANTED TO REPURCHASE!! Walther pistol Model PP - ac code - Ser. No. 382000P - REWARD FOR INFO ABOUT THIS PISTOL!!
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#92689
02/17/2006 01:53 AM
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OOPS - sorry Barry I didn't see your earlier post.
WANTED TO REPURCHASE!! Walther pistol Model PP - ac code - Ser. No. 382000P - REWARD FOR INFO ABOUT THIS PISTOL!!
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#92690
02/17/2006 05:48 PM
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Copy from page 257 Volume IV of LTC THOMAS M. JOHNSON’S book “Collecting The Edge Weapons of the Third Reich” and Dr. Julian Milestone is credited for the photos. The above dagger is very exacting to these photos.
I want to thank Mr. Johnson for the use of these photos on the Forum. Sincerely, Hubertus
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#92691
02/17/2006 07:45 PM
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Ralph, nice looking knife, Freidrich Herder made many types of knives like these, some for the domestic market and a lot for the export market, I'm not sure where your one comes in but it sure is nice.
Gary.
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#92692
02/17/2006 09:51 PM
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It's a nice dagger-but certainly not related to falconry IMO. I would'nt even call it a hunting dagger-to me it's more like a fancy personal weapon. Many of these type daggers were carried around the turn of the century by the "gentlemen" of the time-and some of the "ladies" too.
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#92693
02/18/2006 11:51 PM
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Hey Ralph,
As always, you never cease to astound. Great piece whatever it's for. I really dig the spiderweb above the crossguard, very unique. The bird head pommel is particularly nice as well, for a second I thought it was an "uglyhead" bayonet.
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