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#89344 07/13/2008 04:27 PM
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One of my favorite uniform accessories, the police belt buckle for other ranks! Sorry to those that might find this dull, although I'm missing the old thread after it vaporized into the unknown so I have to start this topic again! Especially due to continued hunting and adding new makers to the collection! Hope you enjoy and please add what you have!

First up is an overview and I'll continue to add detailed pictures when time permits.

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#89345 07/13/2008 04:30 PM
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One of the more commonly found makers, although a mint example by Christian Theodor Dicke of Lüdenscheid (C.T.D.):

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#89346 07/13/2008 04:32 PM
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Reverse:

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#89347 07/15/2008 12:53 PM
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Aluminum injection molded buckle that is not marked with a black tab marked: R. Sieper & Sohn, Lüdenscheid, and Dated 1942.

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#89348 07/15/2008 12:54 PM
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Reverse of this one:

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#89349 07/15/2008 11:19 PM
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Dave,

Nice mountain-o-buckles!

How about a couple of Prussian:

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#89350 07/15/2008 11:21 PM
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And my only gold buckle:

Interestingly marked "OTC" in a diamond, but the letters are backwards as of the guy who made the stamping die forgot that it would be reversed in the final stamping. Have no idea if this is common.

Regards,
Bill Unland

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#89351 07/15/2008 11:29 PM
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Hard to get a scan but here is the maker's mark:

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#89352 07/16/2008 04:32 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by W.Unland:
Dave,

Nice mountain-o-buckles!

How about a couple of Prussian:


Bill, those Prussian examples are very nice! By chance are there any markings on the reverse? I must find me one of those and soon!!!

That Overhoff & Cie., Lüdenscheid, is also a choice example! Here is my only Overhoff example:

(BTW, thanks for a flicker of life on this thread!)

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#89353 07/16/2008 04:33 AM
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Reverse1

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Maker mark1

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#89356 07/16/2008 04:50 AM
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Dave,

AHHH, not a "T", a symbol for "and". I get it.

No marks on the Prussians.

Here is a 1936 dated RS&S Gendarmerie.

Bill U

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#89357 07/16/2008 04:56 AM
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The reverse:

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A couple of early 2 piece, bottom one for a fireman. Seem to be identical.

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Reverses.

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#89360 07/18/2008 12:12 PM
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Excellent Contributions Bill! Hopefully some other members jump will in here....

Next Up: Gustav Hermann Osang

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#89361 07/18/2008 12:13 PM
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GHO Reverse

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GHO mark in a triangle

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#89363 07/18/2008 03:13 PM
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Here is a complete Feuerwehr rig, as found, with the Faschinenmesser and a black buckle.

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#89364 07/18/2008 03:14 PM
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Blackened police buckle worn by FSP and FW.

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#89365 07/18/2008 03:17 PM
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Another view of the FW belt and buckle.

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#89366 07/19/2008 02:12 AM
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Dave,
I've got just one. Can you tell me something about it?
Thanks!
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Last one.


#89369 07/19/2008 12:00 PM
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Just to add some basic info about the German phrase "Gott mit uns" :-

"Gott mit uns (meaning God With Us) was a phrase most known as the motto of the royal house of Prussia, and formed part of the military emblem of Prussia and later Germany.

The phrase was also used as battle cry in the Thirty Years' War and was one of the three official mottoes by Gustavus Adolphus. Note the reference to Nobiscum Deus (Latin, "God with us"), used by Romans and East-Romans as a battle cry.

During World War II, Wehrmacht soldiers wore this slogan on their belt buckles, as opposed to members of the Waffen SS, who wore the motto Meine Ehre heißt Treue ("My honor is loyalty")." - Wikipedia.

Cheers,
Ibrahim.


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#89370 07/20/2008 03:29 AM
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Here now some of my buckles. First one by R.S.&S.

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..and it's backside .

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..and close-up of the hmk .

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The next buckle is by "A" for Assmann.

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#89374 07/20/2008 03:36 AM
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..and again it's backside .

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..and again a close-up of the hmk.

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Next my flat-gilted buckle .

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..and next again it's backside .

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..and a close-up of the hmk. "D&C " of Dransfeld & Co.

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Now some buckles that belong to my son Douglas . First a flat gilted buckle .

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..here now the backside of this one .

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.. and this one is hmk. at the center back with "C.T.D." .

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Here now one of those 'late war type ' buckles .

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The backside shows the unique stamp-out of these .

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Here an other one of Doug's buckles with a leather tab .

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On this one the swastika is polished .

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..and the hmk. is "OLC".

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..and on the leather tab is the date of 1939 .

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And an other one of Doug's buckles . Again this one has a leather tab and a polished swastika .

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..and it's backside shows the hmk."R.S.& S." .

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..and the leather tab shows in the center of the manufacturer's oval the date of 1936 .

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..and now to the most interesting part of this leather tab : the other side is marked with
" 677--Gend.1937 " !!!!

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Dear Bernd,

Thanks for posting. You have a great selection of types there.

And I also thank our compatriot from Singapore for finally explaining to me why German buckles have "Gott Mit Uns" on them. Now I know.

Best regards,
Bill Unland

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quote:
Originally posted by Serge (aka Wagner):
Dave,
I've got just one. Can you tell me something about it?
Thanks!
-serge-





Serge, you have a nice looking steel example of the buckle made by Christian Theodor Dicke of Lüdenscheid (C.T.D.). Thanks for posting!

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quote:
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..and now to the most interesting part of this leather tab : the other side is marked with
" 677--Gend.1937 " !!!!


That is interesting! I've not yet found a leather tab with Gend. and I want it really bad!!! Very nice buckles, thanks for posting!

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L.U.F. (Linden & Funke, Iserlohn)

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L.u.F. reverse

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Closer look at the reverse of L.u.F.

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Bill and Dave : Thanks for your kind remarks . Here 3 more buckles from Doug's collection .First a buckle hmkd "G.G.L."

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..and it's backside .

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..close-up of the hmk.

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Now a buckle for the firepolice .

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..and the backside again .

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..and a close-up of the hmk again .

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.. and a close-up section of the front to show the darker finish on this one .

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Now a "late war " type again , but this one has a darker finish than the other 2 of this type that I have , and I feel this might as well have been for the firepolice .This one has a leather tab , but no markings on it .

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..and the backside of this one .

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Very nice Bernd/Doug! I also have a burnished example by RS&S (R. Sieper & Sohn, Lüdenscheid).

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Reverse of the burnished RS&S (R. Sieper & Sohn, Lüdenscheid)

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Almost forgot this "Rheinland" Police buckle of mine .

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.. and it's backside .

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..and the close-up shows :" O & C ges. gesch."; which is : Overhoff & Cie. , Luedenscheid.

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AND NOW some Police Officer's buckles ! First one for a Firepolice Officer .

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..and it's backside .

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..and a close-up of the hmk. :"OLC ges. gesch.", being : Overhoff & Cie, Luedenscheid .

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Now the 'standard' Police Officer's buckle .

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..and a close-up .

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...and now the backside again .

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The close-up shows the same "OLC ges.gesch.", --but this time with the date "36".

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My 3rd Police Officer's buckle has the swastika and the lettering polished , --which looks great !

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..and again it's backside .

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..and this time there is no hmk. , but there are the letters "D.R.G.M." : which I think stands for " Deutsches Reichs Guilde Mitglied", meaning the manufacturer of this buckle was a member of the German Reich's Trade/Kraft's Union .

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#89422 07/23/2008 11:53 AM
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Bernd, very nice officer grade buckle addition. Where any you fathers? Well, you got me there, I only have one or two floating around somewhere here. I'm more of an other ranks collector...so here we go again:

Below is a steel Overhoff & Cie., Lüdenscheid (OLC)

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OLC Rev.

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OLC Mark

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Some very nice buckles
My one and only
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Stan, nice looking example by Linden & Funke, a maker not often found!

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E.FERD.WIEDMANN FRANKFURT A M - S

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Wiedmann - Full Reverse

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Wiedmann buckle mark

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Wiedmann tab marking

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#89432 07/30/2008 01:01 AM
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Josef Feix Söhne, Gablonz-Reisse

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J.F.S. - Reverse

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#89434 07/30/2008 01:09 AM
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wow!,,,great selection on pole Eek zei buckles guys,,,

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New one in - I could not resist the marked buckle.

F.W. Assmann & Söhne

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Assmann - Reverse

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Assmann marked buckle

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#89438 08/05/2008 04:14 AM
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Another Assmann!

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A - Reverse

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#89440 08/05/2008 04:15 AM
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A - closer reverse look

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A- closer view of front

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#89442 08/05/2008 01:29 PM
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Not a box buckle but an interesting Bavarian Landespolizei enlisted buckle from circa 1935.

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#89443 08/11/2008 03:11 AM
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An odd one to find - J. Deutschbein

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Reverse of J. Deutschbein

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I think that the police buckles are some of the most beautiful buckles in the collecting field. My favorite is the Landpolizei Buckle. Does anyone have any of these buckles that they can post?

Richard Kuchta

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Couple of 1938 tab dated Wiedmann's!

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Just when I thought I had an extra, I noticed the size of the makers mark is different, which is slightly interesting.

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And yet another Assmann!

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2nd look

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1942 dated tab

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#89451 10/27/2008 12:12 PM
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Dransfeld & Co

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Dransfeld - 2

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Dransfeld - 3

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Dransfeld - 4

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#89455 11/03/2008 05:29 AM
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Ah come-on there must be some more police collectors with buckles to post!

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Dave,

Here is a second style Prussian Police box buckle with the flying eagle.

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#89457 11/04/2008 02:40 PM
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Back of the Prussian Police buckle.

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#89458 11/04/2008 02:42 PM
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This is the round Prussian Police buckle with the flying eagle.

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#89459 11/04/2008 02:43 PM
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Back of the Prussian Police round buckle.

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Here is an interesting view of a darkened Feuerschutzpolizei buckle with the proper belt with a darkened catch.

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#89461 11/06/2008 01:23 PM
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ORPO, excellent Prussian buckles! I always enjoy seeing those that are so rarely found! Someday, I'll have to add one to the collection! Thanks for sharing.

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BTT to keep alive

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Beautiful buckles guys.
I've always wanted one, but they're usually too pricey for my miniscule hobby funds.

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BTT to keep alive

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Older thread. Well worth adding to.

--dj--Joe

L.u.F.

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