#88404
01/09/2007 07:39 PM
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Gentlemen,
Recently found this Pack with spanner rivets. I wonder if this type of knife is considered to be rare?
Anyway it was the first one that I have found in decent shape, often they look like the spanners have been turned a thousand times.
I like the special grip plates (extra large texture) and the unique blade shape (ricasso area) of these knifes. The scabbard is annodised with brown leather.
Any comments are more than welcome.
Best greetings,
Herman
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#88405
01/09/2007 07:40 PM
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#88406
01/09/2007 07:41 PM
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#88407
01/09/2007 07:42 PM
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#88408
01/09/2007 07:55 PM
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#88409
01/09/2007 08:18 PM
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Very Rare - and in that condition even more so.
Dave
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#88410
01/09/2007 09:10 PM
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Nice Pack ,yes they are rare to find.When I bought mine I didn't even relize it I was more interested in the Luft sword I got with it.Here's mine
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#88411
01/09/2007 09:11 PM
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You know you're over the hill when "Happy Hour" means Nap Time
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#88412
01/09/2007 09:11 PM
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You know you're over the hill when "Happy Hour" means Nap Time
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#88413
01/10/2007 12:49 AM
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Interesting that the pommels differ between the two. The second being more of a birds head or dress bayo style although both knives seem to be of same vintage. Anyone have a theory?
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#88414
01/10/2007 04:19 AM
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Your right Barry there is a difference,why I don't know.The one to answer that might be Ron W. 
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#88415
01/10/2007 05:40 AM
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Early HJ Knives by Pack are of a wide variety. Mine (in my book "NPEA Daggers and Associated Knives") is much like this one, except it has an eye in the pommel to represent an eagle's eye. The circle is abour the size of a dime and deep.
The TM is exactly like this one and my scabbard is blued. A couple of years ago at a MAX Show in Pittsburgh I saw one of these in near mint condition, so they are out there.
This makes three different early Pack patterns, so there was no standardization early on.
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria
PS: In Johnson's newest 4 vol. set of books from Sheiffer on daggers, there is one of these early Pack HJs in wear that is a great shot where you can see the eagle type hilt.
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#88416
01/10/2007 05:14 PM
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Thanks Ron I figured you were the "Man" to answer this
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#88417
01/10/2007 05:28 PM
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Dave, Ed, Barry and Ron,
Thank you for your valuable comments on this piece.
Ed,
It looks that the scabbards of both our knifes are about the same: dark brown leather with the same snap buttons. But yours looks painted on that picture, is that correct?
Best greetings,
Herman
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#88418
01/11/2007 11:45 PM
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I think this is the one with the eye, or really false lug, hehehe
John
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#88419
01/11/2007 11:46 PM
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Maker mark, with the washer removed.
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#88420
01/11/2007 11:48 PM
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John Merling [email protected]MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member
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#88421
01/11/2007 11:54 PM
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DD Harris has a few of these to look at on his site: http://www.ddsdaggers.com/
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