#84427
02/19/2007 09:06 PM
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Gentlemen,
On several authentic late HJ knifes, I have seen diamonds from which the gold under the swastica is "bleeding" out of its square (see picture). I am wondering if these diamonds are replacements or if originals with this problem do exist?
Best greetings,
Herman
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#84428
02/19/2007 09:09 PM
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Another one
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#84429
02/19/2007 09:43 PM
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The whole knife MIGHT be suspect.
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it" Santayana
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#84430
02/20/2007 12:45 PM
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I would think that since these HJ diamonds were produced in the thousands for various attachments that the quality control might not be as good as a fine enameled dress pin. I would not be too concerned about it.
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#84431
02/26/2007 04:13 AM
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The metal of the square is higher than the surrounding sections to allow the enamel to be placed on the four surrounding quadrants. So if the metal square isn't perfect, the enamel accents the flaw. I think that's OK, your examples look genuine. Best, John
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#84432
03/21/2007 03:13 PM
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Some of mine looks like that, too. Not that much maybe, but the same "problem". However, I am absolutely positive they are real, and I agree with John/vintagetimenow. I wouldnt worry.
(Always looking for named/personalized/"altered" HJ knifes/bayos and Brannik/czech youth knifes)
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#84433
03/22/2007 04:42 PM
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In metal stamping operations for one reason or another defects occasionally appear in the stamped item which usually cause them to be sent to the scrap bin for recycling. Sometimes the defect is in the metal blank, maybe the press needs to be adjusted, or a die is beginning to break down etc. etc. And sometimes the flawed part is processed just like perfect condition parts and ends up in a finished product.
I don�t see anything particularly amiss with the first image. And while the second image is not as sharply defined, the emblem in it from what I can see also seems to be fairly normal. I would not be losing any sleep over either one. FP
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#84434
03/28/2007 10:58 AM
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Hi Gentlemen - First post since back from my sandbox deployment. I would like to see the rest of the knife before saying the knife is original. Cheers.
Regards, Jeff
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#84435
03/29/2007 08:53 AM
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Great to see your back Jeff! Welcome home! JohnJ
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#84436
03/29/2007 10:20 AM
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Thanks John - I would still want to see this knife before passing opinion. It's not a "one-looker" based on that one shot.
Regards, Jeff
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#84437
03/30/2007 07:51 PM
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Jeff,
I did not ask opinions on a particular knife, just wanted to get input on diamonds that display this problem.
Best greetings,
Herman
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#84438
03/31/2007 12:54 AM
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Understand, but you stated that on on several authentic late HJ knifes you had seen diamonds from which the gold under the swastika is "bleeding" out of its square. To answer the question accurately it would help to know if knife you used as an example is an original knife before we state whether these diamonds are replacements or if originals with this problem do exist.
Regards, Jeff
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