Translate German to English - Click here to open Altavista's Babel Fish Translator Click here to learn about all those symbols by people's names.

leftlogo.jpg (20709 bytes)

Upgrade to Premium Membership

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#84427 02/19/2007 09:06 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,661
Likes: 50
OP Online Content
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,661
Likes: 50
Gentlemen,

On several authentic late HJ knifes, I have seen diamonds from which the gold under the swastica is "bleeding" out of its square (see picture). I am wondering if these diamonds are replacements or if originals with this problem do exist?

Best greetings,

Herman

A1.jpg (84.27 KB, 303 downloads)
1

You never have enough HJ-knifes!
#84428 02/19/2007 09:09 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,661
Likes: 50
OP Online Content
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,661
Likes: 50
Another one

B1.jpg (46.29 KB, 301 downloads)
2

You never have enough HJ-knifes!
#84429 02/19/2007 09:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,026
Z
Offline
Z
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,026
The whole knife MIGHT be suspect.


"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it" Santayana
#84430 02/20/2007 12:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 438
N
Offline
N
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 438
I would think that since these HJ diamonds were produced in the thousands for various attachments that the quality control might not be as good as a fine enameled dress pin. I would not be too concerned about it.


Tom
GDC Gold Badge # 0062
#84431 02/26/2007 04:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,054
Offline
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,054
The metal of the square is higher than the surrounding sections to allow the enamel to be placed on the four surrounding quadrants. So if the metal square isn't perfect, the enamel accents the flaw. I think that's OK, your examples look genuine.
Best, John

#84432 03/21/2007 03:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 203
Offline
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 203
Some of mine looks like that, too. Not that much maybe, but the same "problem". However, I am absolutely positive they are real, and I agree with John/vintagetimenow. I wouldnt worry.


(Always looking for named/personalized/"altered" HJ knifes/bayos and Brannik/czech youth knifes)
#84433 03/22/2007 04:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,274
Offline
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,274
In metal stamping operations for one reason or another defects occasionally appear in the stamped item which usually cause them to be sent to the scrap bin for recycling. Sometimes the defect is in the metal blank, maybe the press needs to be adjusted, or a die is beginning to break down etc. etc. And sometimes the flawed part is processed just like perfect condition parts and ends up in a finished product.

I don’t see anything particularly amiss with the first image. And while the second image is not as sharply defined, the emblem in it from what I can see also seems to be fairly normal. I would not be losing any sleep over either one. FP

#84434 03/28/2007 10:58 AM
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 860
Offline
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 860
Hi Gentlemen - First post since back from my sandbox deployment. I would like to see the rest of the knife before saying the knife is original. Cheers.


Regards, Jeff
#84435 03/29/2007 08:53 AM
A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A
Great to see your back Jeff! Welcome home! JohnJ

#84436 03/29/2007 10:20 AM
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 860
Offline
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 860
Thanks John - I would still want to see this knife before passing opinion. It's not a "one-looker" based on that one shot.


Regards, Jeff
#84437 03/30/2007 07:51 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,661
Likes: 50
OP Online Content
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,661
Likes: 50
Jeff,

I did not ask opinions on a particular knife, just wanted to get input on diamonds that display this problem.

Best greetings,

Herman


You never have enough HJ-knifes!
#84438 03/31/2007 12:54 AM
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 860
Offline
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 860
Understand, but you stated that on on several authentic late HJ knifes you had seen diamonds from which the gold under the swastika is "bleeding" out of its square. To answer the question accurately it would help to know if knife you used as an example is an original knife before we state whether these diamonds are replacements or if originals with this problem do exist.


Regards, Jeff

Link Copied to Clipboard
Popular Topics(Views)
2,261,660 SS Bayonets
1,760,359 Teno Insignia Set
1,128,800 westwall rings
Latest New Threads
Spitzer Stuka Etch Opinions
by RookieSA - 03/29/2024 09:58 AM
Luftwaffe Swords
by Tanker - 03/27/2024 07:29 PM
Paul Weyersberg Heer
by Tanker - 03/27/2024 07:13 PM
HJ Fahrtenmesser,
by OWN - 03/27/2024 07:05 PM
Wir fahren gegen Engelland - Battle of Britain
by Stephen - 03/27/2024 10:06 AM
Latest New Posts
Spitzer Stuka Etch Opinions
by RookieSA - 03/29/2024 01:01 PM
Luftwaffe Swords
by Luftbud - 03/29/2024 09:21 AM
Paul Weyersberg Heer
by Luftbud - 03/29/2024 09:13 AM
Personalized reproduction honor ring source?
by Evgeniy - 03/29/2024 09:02 AM
F Dula with a twist
by C. Wetzel-20609 - 03/28/2024 09:29 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics31,653
Posts328,719
Members7,502
Most Online5,900
Dec 19th, 2019
Who's Online Now
8 members (RookieSA, Baz69, Documentalist, Evgeniy, Herman V. (aka Herr Mann), Mat J, maybarker, Billy G.), 560 guests, and 141 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5