#82468
01/22/2006 04:31 PM
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Guys I have just stumbled onto the nicest, untouched, mintest SA dagger that I have ever owned or even seen. It is a maker marked Armeso in a diamond with name Artur Melcher Solingen Merscheid.WF stamped on lower crossguard. The blade is mirror finished with 100%!!! crossgraining and no hint of runner wear or graying.100% burnishing to motto and maker mark. The fittings are perfect and still have 70+ years of patina, never cleaned and no wear at all. They would clean up stone mint!The handle is beautiful with no wear to the esgle or SA roundel. Nice patina and age to both. High feathering on the chest feathers of the eagle. The scabbard fittings are beautifully age toned with no wear and all and the ball doesn't have the slightest hint of wear. The scabbard finish is easily deep brown and uniform at 100% Scabbard screws have zero wear. I have been out of daggers since I sold my collection 6 years ago. I have owned over 30 SA maker daggers in my time. I have had Karl Malsch, Paul Weyersburg, man at water pump, etc... but I have neither owned nor seen an Armeso. Can't find in any Whittman or Johnson back issues. Does anyone know the rarity scale of such a dagger? This dagger has it all rarity, uncleaned patina and probably unissued or as mint as you can come without being unissued. Trade bait for the SOS! cheers, Ryan S
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#82469
01/22/2006 04:33 PM
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Hi I will take photos. If anyone can post for me please email me at [email protected]
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#82470
01/22/2006 04:38 PM
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Send them pictures to my email ryan, [email protected] and I can post them. Sounds awesome!!
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#82471
01/22/2006 05:10 PM
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I just can't wait to see that baby.
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#82472
01/22/2006 05:33 PM
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Hi Pat and Adam. Now that I have had some time to collect myself after getting home with this dagger from a local medal show I may have been generous with my description. Many of you, including Patrice have some amazingly conditioned daggers in your collections. I guess that being in Canada we do not get to see mint or near mint conditioned early SA daggers anymore. Also since I have technically been out of the dagger hobby for six years since my first dagger purchase in 1982 (RZM SS, near mint for $150.00)I guess I was a little generous in my description. Having said this, my example is extremely nice and better than any SA dagger presently available on any dealer site that I have seen. It would definately be a highlight piece of any SA collection. cheers, Ryan I will attempt tp borrow a digital camera later today. My camera sucks
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#82473
01/22/2006 06:41 PM
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Hi Gents it would appear that after some checking of the forum archives that an Armeso dagger is a newly discovered maker and a 10 on the rarity scale. Apparently the only other one known surfaced at the Max show. My example is mint conditioned in all aspects. Thanks and cheers, Ryan
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#82474
01/22/2006 08:08 PM
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bring them pictures on
Regards Sean
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#82475
01/22/2006 08:12 PM
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Hi Ryan,there was one sold on the Militariaweb.com 2 weeks ago.A forum member bought it,so if he sees this post he might post some photos of the dagger,Regards nats
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#82476
01/22/2006 09:09 PM
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This maker is not listed in "Fisher's" or on the McSARR.Can't wait to see the photos.
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#82477
01/22/2006 09:23 PM
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"ARMESO" is a slogan or trade name.
The manufacturer is Artur Melcher of Solingen Merscheid. Hard to find dagger.
Dave
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#82478
01/22/2006 10:13 PM
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Hi Dave, thanks I guess ARthur MElcher SOlingen,ARMESO cheers, Ryan
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#82479
01/22/2006 10:35 PM
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Here is my list of slogans or trade names:
Amso Alber Mebus ASSO Schuttelhoffer ARMESO Artur Melcher Bavaria Fritz Barthelmess Breidora Bredohr, Johann C A M Carl Aug Meis Chromolit Arthur Wingen Diogenes Herder & Sohn FABRIKMARKE Baurman & sohn Gaefler F u A Helbig Gazelle Gebr Krusius Grade Grah & Deppmeyer Grawiso Gebr. Grafrath Gustok Stock, G&W HUBEO Berns, Hugo Kwick Carl Zander Kroneck Ernst Erich Witte Linor Hugo Linder Lux Carl Tillmann Sohne Mobil Franz Steinhoff Macero Henckel & Muller Remeve Cuno Reimscheid Romuso Romuso Senta Linder & Sohne Siegfried EP&S Undine Kuno Messenberg WaSso Schnittert
And here are some "Werks"
Baumwerk Boker (Baum =Tree) Christianswerk Grebruder Christians Constantwerke F. Herder Deltawerk Hugo Linder Dreizackwerk Ed. Wusthof Gladiatorwerk Carl Wusthof Gloriawerk Gustav Felix Hack-werke Joseph Hack, Steyr Hoffnungwerke Ernst Dirlam Juliuswerk J. Schmidt & Sohne Justinuswerk Justis Brenger & Co. Kolumbuswerk Eduard Becker Lowenwerke C.Lutters & Co. Pfeilringwerke Pfeilring - Muller&Schmidt Pumawerk Lauterjung & Sohn Tigerwerk Lauterjung & Co Zwillingswerk JA Henkels Dave
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#82480
01/22/2006 10:49 PM
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Ryan, Great find this maker can be found in John Fishers Latest 2 volume set of SA dagger maker trademarks quick reference guide... on pg 784... He lists it as RARE...estimate made 1,000...DAVE H
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#82481
01/22/2006 11:35 PM
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Nice find! I didn't know they even existed. Thanks for posting the pic and info Dave... Mark
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