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#81265 06/16/2007 02:15 PM
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Thought to share this with you.
Obverse.
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Reverse. I will let someone else post the makers name, all the info needed to do so is posted in this forum.

The scanner washed out some of the detail.
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#81267 06/21/2007 09:32 PM
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OK, so nobody cares who the maker is. Frown

Any other wound badges to share?

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Friz Doolittle !


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Big Grin EH 126.


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Ok, so I was guessing. Big Grin


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Miniature wound badges. Stick pin versions.
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How about a WWI version in a civilian stick pin grouping?
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Joe, here are all the black ones I have.
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Sorry forgot to take one of the back while it was light out. Hope this will do.

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That's all for now I'll do the unmarked tomorrow. Joe do you want to put the Spanish Civil War type here or in a new thread?

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I forgot to answer your question. EH 126 is Eduard Hann of Oberstein(info from MCF).

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Outstanding!
Raymond, a big thumbs up! Collectors should appreciate this thread now that you have added so many maker marked badges. I appreciate it!
I have an E.S.P. on my list. Thought it would be nice to add a zinc version to my Steel and brass versions.

Regards,--dj--Joe

For those who wish to look up the makers by number.
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/800097573/m/7760012084


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As to the Spanish type, I would say post some black examples here since they were worn and awarded at later dates, and if you are willing and have all three grades place them in a seperate topic.

I am changing the title of this thread to Black Wound Badges. Smile

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All the unmarked have different hinges,catches and/or pins,so I would say different makers or variations. If anyone knows the makers of any of them please let me know. Joe if you could get rid of that double photo i'd appreciate it.
Here's the only cloth black I have.

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Spanish Civil War type #1.... all unmarked.

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Her's a mini, not sure if it's good. Anyone know for sure?

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Stick pins. L/18(left) unmarked(right)

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L/18 mm. That's all, there is no more. unless you would like to do WWI's. Guess we could also do the silve and gold grades. will have to wait a couple of days on those though.

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Sorry , I keep going faster than I'm thinking.

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Wow. Smile Raymond, can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate all the work you put forth to post all these variations.
I agree we can all learn by observing the various hinges and catches shown.

I have an example marked 93 on the pin. Do not think I can get a scan.

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I'll dig out my remaining examples and see how they scan.

Raymond, I have seen the small clutch/pin back mini's before in differing sizes, never heard anything against them.

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Thanks Joe, that's good to hear. Tomarrow is the show in Union NJ, should find a couple of more wound badges. Will post any I get.

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Nice Raymond! ,, Now that's a collection.. Thanks for listing all of them..
There's always a few good Blk,Wound badges at Union but I think you already have all the different makers! Big Grin

I'd say that mini is good,,and a rare piece.. Hamelmans WB book shows a 'half size' 25mm gold 1914 style that reminds me of yours,,makes sense a WW2 version would carry over..
He lists a bunch of mini sizes - 10mm, 14, 16, 18, 21 and 25 mm pieces....,G.

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Thanks Gaspare. Only picked up 1 black wound badge. I already have the maker (#100) but this one is in an LDO box.

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Raymond,
Nice addition! No rust on that one.
My brass example is an L/11 so no reason to post it. The 93 refuses to scan for the moment. I will persevere.

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Hello Everyone,

Here is the only Black Wound Badge I have.
It is maker marked L/52 for C.F. Zimmermann Pforzheim.

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Stephen, thank you, a nicely conditioned example.

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Just got a few small ones.




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Terry, some fine examples there, I really like the cut out miniature WB's.

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Here are some new ones I've gotten since my last post here.
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MM #30.

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MM L/16

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Here's an interesting one. Marked with both L/16 and 4(on the pin). I wonder if there's a version where the duel markings are reversed? Or just an L/16 on the pin?
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Last one. It looks like the makers mark is L/10 but, not completely sure.

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MM on pin.

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It does look like L/10. Good additions. The 30 appears to be a brass/tombac base.

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My 93 marked BWB.
Obverse, scanner washes out some detail but you can get an idea what it looks like.
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Reverse.
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Close up of 93 mark.
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Very nice WB´s guys!

Raymond the unmarked BWB with the ballhinge is a 93 and the "L/10" is infact a partial L/18.
The L/10´s have a different design.
I really love the doublemarked 4-L/16!


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Thanks Hans Cool.

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Here is a nice Steinhauer und Luk #4 in the original packet:

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Ron, thank you. Nice to see the paper packet.

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Here is mine, marked 95:







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GREAT LOOKING BADGES...HERE IS MY L24..........DAVE H

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Hi Dave. Could it be a tarnished silver badge?

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Black Wound Badge marked L/11

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Well conditioned. Is it a tombac base metal?

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Hi --dj--Joe. I'm still pretty new to badge collecting..how can you tell if it's tombac base metal? Are there a few things that I can look for to identify it? In the meantime I'll look on the internet for a descrition as well.
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Ed, tombac is a brass based alloy with copper and zinc content.
Depending on how much copper you may see a brassy to a reddish brass looking base metal peeking through the paint.
It will not attract a magnet.
A zinc alloy badge will not attract a magnet either. But will appear as grey metal.
Steel badges of course are magnetic.

The pin on your wound badge is either tombac or plated steel.

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--dj--Joe, Thank you for the information. It is very useful information. I don't have access to the badge at the moment because I'm out of the country until the end of November. When I get back home I will examine the badge carefully and do a magnet test. I'll post my findings then. Sorry that it will take so long.

Thanks again for the great information.
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--dj-Joe, I looked at the photo of the badge and on the back side on the left side toward the bottom...the paint is worn off the edge/rim. It appears to be a yellow or brass color like the pin. The magnet test will most likely help with the answer.
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hello everyone. I am new here. My collection is very small,also my knowledge is modest. I am new in this field. I have a black wound badge marked 58. Can you tell me who is the manufacturer an is it genuine or not??? Thanks in advance. If some additional pic you need let me know.

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I would think 58 is Artur Jäkel & Co., Gablonz.

Looks original to me.

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Thank you Joe.
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Is there a list where I can find all the maker marks of these badges?


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Never mind...found it.


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Sorry, I am thinking now you were asking for LDO & Präsidialkanzlei numbers, & M codes.
http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=176872#Post176872

I at first thought you meant a list of manufacturers that produced the badge. I would have sent you the above link ASAP.

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Cheers Joe! Other question: what maker marks in these badges are the most desirable?

Gruess,

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That's a tough question for me to answer as I don't collect variations.
I understand there is a triple marked 65 that is difficult to find.
Some marked badges are searched out for the marks location, such as L/53's and 107's.
117 is commented on as a rare find.

Hope someone else will chime in.

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Thx for the info Joe!


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Anyone have anything new to add to this informative old thread?

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heres an intersting one, the citation was dated 12 7 45, its on very thin paper, when i translated it said it was signed by a Dr or some medical person

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Looks to have been awarded in a Naval hospital.

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thanks, i missed this when i was checking for replys etc, Cheers Cameron

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