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In an effort to figure out the best title for my book on Totenkopf Rings which is currently at Schiffer, I wished to ask the target audience what they would like to see in a title. So, please submit your titles here, and whoever wins the competition will receive a free signed book. The current title is not very imaginative: Totenkopf Ring. Feel free to point members of other forums on rings to this thread.


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I'll be first,you might as well have it in English so when people see it they will think "What in hell is that!) I suggest the title THE SS DEATH HEAD RING


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�The Order of The Honor Ring Of The Schutstaffel� (The History)
'Institution � Award � Return'
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For the main title:

Silver Rings / Men of Steel
Rings of Hitler's Elite
Brothers of the Skull
Rings of Death
Rings of the Death Head
Rings of Steel Men.

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"Brothers of the ring" Himmlers inner circle


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Craig your very lucky with Schiffer letting you pick the title. The publisher I'm working with not only picks out the title but also the cover design and chapter names and layout! You can make suggestions but he has final say..
anyway,,,

How about:
'WEAR THIS RING WITH HONOR!' H. Himmlers gift of Loyalty and Thanks.

'The SS Totenkopf Honor Ring. Up close, in depth, and personal!'

'Advanced study of the Nazi SS Totenkopf Honor Ring.'

*Come on guys,,keep them coming.. Good luck Craig,,can't wait to see it..Thanks , G.

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HIMMLER'S SS HONOR RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
WORN WITH HONOR, THE SS HONOR RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
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SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS 1933-1945

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DAS TOTENKOPFRING DER SS


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CIRCLE OF SILVER The history of the SS honor ring

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On the front cover a picture of Himmler (closeup) wearing his ring w/caption in big bold letters SS "THE RING OF DEATH"
History of The SS Honor Ring.. by Craig Gottlieb

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My go,

Hitlers SS Elite - A history of the SS Honour Ring.

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Himmler's SS Ring of Honor by Craig Gottlieb

All the best for your book

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Or "Himmler's Ring of Death", History of The SS Honor Ring... by Craig Gottlieb
"My Honor is True" etc. same as above.
"Death's Honor" etc. same as above.
"Death and Honor" etc. same as above.
"Ring'(s)of Evil" Myth and Legend etc. same as above.
Or simply "(Himmler's) "Honor Ring(s) of the SS" etc. same as above or just plain "History of the SS Honor Ring"...

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Well since I designed the runes and ring logo used on Don Boyle's book, I thought I would give this a shot.

"Wear this ring with honor!" was taken from the Death's Head Ring Citation and seems like a good title.

A picture of a ring on the cover is a must and Himmler's collar tabs associate the award with him.

All graphics were borrowed from the internet so pictures of a real ring and Himmler collar tabs would have to be used.

BTW, I also designed the cover on my own book, "The Key". Cool

Now about royalties... Big Grin

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The SS Honour Ring
A collector�s guide.


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SS Honor Rings of the 3rd Reich
Himmler's SS Honor Rings
HONOR RINGS OF THE SS
Devil's HONOR RING Razz
Collector's Guide to SS HONOR RING Big Grin
Complete Analogy of SS HONOR RING Big Grin
RING OF HONOR (SS THIRD REICH) Roll Eyes
Nazi SS Honor Ring
"WEAR WITH HONOR!!" RING OF THE SS
DEATHHEAD HONOR RING OF THE SS
TOTENKOPFRING OF THE SS THIRD REICH Eek
Guide to ELITE SS HONOR RING 1933-45

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quote:
Originally posted by Bernie Brule:
Well since I designed the runes and ring logo used on Don Boyle's book, I thought I would give this a shot.

"Wear this ring with honor!" was taken from the Death's Head Ring Citation and seems like a good title.

A picture of a ring on the cover is a must and Himmler's collar tabs associate the award with him.

All graphics were borrowed from the internet so pictures of a real ring and Himmler collar tabs would have to be used.

BTW, I also designed the cover on my own book, "The Key". Cool

Now about royalties... Big Grin




Hello,

almost the same as Bernie's, but in German language :

"Tragen Sie den ring in Ehren !"

Bernie's graphic looks perfect in my opinion !

Just my 2c, considering I'm a publisher in life...

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Hi!

"WENN ALLE UNTREU WERDEN..."
Its a german ring, so i think german words in the title.
Its the beginning of the ss-song. it means "If all get unfaithful...


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BERNIE,FANTASTIC IM WITH YOU. J0E


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Bernie has my vote.Sure does catch the eye.


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Wow, I'm impressed, guys! Please keep them coming. I asked Drew to remove the graphic, because I don't want to "spoil" it for anybody. Sorry for any confusion (he's doing the cover design). Schiffer was very good to work with, and while I'm sure they have editorial control, they asked me to do the cover-design and title. My only feelings so far:

I would prefer not to use the term "Honor Ring" - I think it's incorrect (although we all use it) and Totenkopf Ring is the better more accurate term - one that is exclusively used in the book.

Also, although the book is done, there is still lots of work to do. After Schiffer does the layout and text editing, the manuscript comes back to me so I can make additions. I've already got two or three people on line to do a complete read-through for accuracy, and to call the "BS" flag if they think I've said something that is totally off-base.

Also, I'm still in need of some of the later-style conferral documents, so if you have one that is either the "latest" style with the faxcimile signature, or the previous style, with the "SS" runes, please let me know!


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SS Totenkopfring
"Circle of Honor"

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SS Totenkopfring
"Circle of Honor and Loyalty"

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SS Totenkopfring
"Circle of Loyalty"

Either would make a great title, simple and to the point.
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CLASS RINGS of HELL 1933-1945 Wink


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"Pledge of Honor"
We Pledge our Honor
Band of Honor
Band of Silver
Ring of Power
Power of the Ring
R)unic (I)dealism of (N)azi (G)ermany
Skull Rings of the SS (Todtenkopf)
Rings of Deception
Rings of Destiny
Within the Circle
The Inner Circle
Silver Armor
Ring(s)of the Wolf

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The SS Totenkopf Ring - Award of Himmler's Elite
The SS Totenkopf Ring - Himmler's Elite Award

The Totenkopf Ring - Award of Himmler's Elite
The Totenkopf Ring - Himmler's Elite Award

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Silver & Black, Death's Head Rings of Hitler's SS


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Their honour was loyality

The ss totenkopfring

myths and facts .

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Hello,

How about "From Munich to Nuremberg: History of the SS Totenkopfring". Munich being the place where Gahr's shop was located as well as the birth of the movement including early SS formations. Nuremberg represented the end of the SS when it's organization was put on trial and declared criminal. The title repesents the Ring but also gives meaning to the Organization behind it's creation in the first place.

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Men of Steel - Rings of Silver

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How about 'Lords of the Ring'.

If people buy it thinking it's 'Lord of the Rings', you'll be as wealthy as J.R.R. Tolkien!

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he was from Germany?


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send out a preface
Otherwise to me it should be why am I wearing this around?

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"HIMMLER'S LASTING LEGACY - THE TK RING"

"HIMMLER'S MYSTICAL LEGACY - THE TK RING"


"HIMMLER'S RUNIC LEGACY - THE TK RING"

"HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING
AN HISTORICAL ANALYSIS"

"HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING
AN HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE"

"HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING
A STUDY OF THE DEATH HEAD"

Whatever choice you use, I suggest that avoid having "SS" on the Cover, so that your International Sales will not be hurt by Foreign Censorship Laws. ALL of us who are your target audience of Buyers, KNOW that it is the SS Ring....

IMHO ...... Txs, Dave/dblmed


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Weissthor�s Magic Ring

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Here is my submission:

Men Of Pure Blood!

A Study Of The SS Honor Ring

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Thanks, guys! I will look at all of these titles, and if I use one, I'll let you know and you'll get a free copy!


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Der Totenkopfring der SS, what is German should stay German.

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I believe that Robert's idea is very good. I used the same approach for my "Nachrichtenoffiziere der Waffen-SS" and "F�hrerliste der Waffen-SS" publications and they have been successful. Even though I had a co-titel in English of "Signal Officers of the Waffen-SS" people mainly refer to it by the German title, even English speakers. It just makes sense.

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It's a nice idea to keep the title in German, but not practical when the bulk of the market will be in America, Canada and the UK.

How about "Himmler's Sacred Order" with a subtitle "An illustrated guide to Der Totenkopfring der SS"

It pretty much sums up the book, keeps the Germanic aspects intact, but also does not undermine the importance these rings had to both the men who earned them, and Himmler himself.

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Robert - Could it be Totenkopfring der SS ? Or would that be inproper ?

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Craig,

What a fun topic! I don't have any suggestions for your book title. My only contribution is to compile and alphabetize the previous suggestions. I thought it would be helpful for everyone. My apologies to anyone if I missed their suggestion. Perhaps one of these is the lucky winner.

Advanced study of the Nazi SS Totenkopf Honor Ring
Band of Honor
Band of Silver
Brothers of the ring - Himmlers inner circle
Brothers of the Skull
CIRCLE OF SILVER - The history of the SS honor ring
CLASS RINGS of HELL 1933-1945
Collector's Guide to SS HONOR RING
Complete Analogy of SS HONOR RING
DAS TOTENKOPFRING DER SS
Der Totenkopfring der SS
Death and Honor
DEATHHEAD HONOR RING OF THE SS
Death's Honor
Devil's HONOR RING
From Munich to Nuremberg: History of the SS Totenkopfring
Guide to ELITE SS HONOR RING 1933-45
Himmler's Honor Rings of the SS
HIMMLER'S LASTING LEGACY - THE TK RING
HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING - AN HISTORICAL ANALYSIS
HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING - AN HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE
HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING - A STUDY OF THE DEATH HEAD
HIMMLER'S MYSTICAL LEGACY - THE TK RING
Himmler's Ring of Death", History of The SS Honor Ring
HIMMLER'S RUNIC LEGACY - THE TK RING
Himmler's Sacred Order - An illustrated guide to Der Totenkopfring der SS
Himmler's SS Honor Rings
HIMMLER'S SS HONOR RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
Himmler's SS Ring of Honor
History of the SS Honor Ring
Hitlers SS Elite - A history of the SS Honour Ring
HONOR RINGS OF THE SS
Men Of Pure Blood! A Study Of The SS Honor Ring
Men of Steel - Rings of Silver
My Honor is True
Nazi SS Honor Ring
Pledge of Honor
Power of the Ring
RING OF HONOR (SS THIRD REICH)
Ring of Power
Rings of Death
Rings of Deception
Rings of Destiny
Rings of Evil - Myth and Legend
Rings of Hitler's Elite
Rings of Steel Men
Rings of the Death Head
Rings of the Wolf
Runic Idealism of Nazi Germany
Silver & Black, Death's Head Rings of Hitler's SS
Silver Armor
Silver Rings / Men of Steel
Skull Rings of the SS Totenkopf
SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS 1933-1945
SS Honor Rings of the 3rd Reich
SS "THE RING OF DEATH" - History of The SS Honor Ring
SS Totenkopfring - Circle of Honor
SS Totenkopfring - Circle of Honor and Loyalty
SS Totenkopfring - Circle of Loyalty
The Inner Circle
Their honour was loyality. The ss totenkopfring myths and facts
The Order of The Honor Ring Of The Schutstaffel (The History)
THE SS DEATH HEAD RING
The SS Honour Ring - A collector�s guide
The SS Totenkopf Honor Ring. Up close, in depth, and personal!
The SS Totenkopf Ring - Award of Himmler's Elite
The SS Totenkopf Ring - Himmler's Elite Award
The Totenkopf Ring - Award of Himmler's Elite
The Totenkopf Ring - Himmler's Elite Award
TOTENKOPFRING OF THE SS THIRD REICH
Tragen Sie den ring in Ehren!
WEAR WITH HONOR!! RING OF THE SS
WEAR THIS RING WITH HONOR! - H. Himmlers gift of Loyalty and Thanks.
Weissthor�s Magic Ring Tor nach Thule (gate to thule)
WENN ALLE UNTREU WERDEN...
We Pledge our Honor
Within the Circle
Worn with honor
WORN WITH HONOR, THE SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
WORN WITH HONOR, THE SS HONOR RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY

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Bravo! Big Grin


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My Initial response is Kill a J## get a Ring.Bad taste?...Yes but this Ideology is getting out of hand,collecting is one thing.

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How about.....

Der Totenkopfring
of the
Teutonic Knights

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Just noticed the last post was 29th Feb (doh!!)....still looking?

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" When the silver tarnished "

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Coburg22 wins - I really liked his "From Munich to Nuremberg." Here is the cover, currently under final review by Schiffer. Please email me, Coburg, and I will reserve a signed copy of the book for you.

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that's a classy cover - if anything dominated by a death's head could be so termed...

excellent graphics, craig.
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I just saw this thread today and thought I would add two just for fun off the top of my head. How about " The SS Totenkopf Ring From It's Runic Beginning To The Ruins Of Berlin ", or " It Sarted With A Twisted Dream, The Legend Of The Totenkopf Ring ".

( That last one has a ring to it ). Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Great idea Craig to come up with abook title. I love the cover you have now.
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Far out! Congratulations to Coburg22!..and Craig Gottlieb on his new book. Cool


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Congrats to Coburg22 on the win! Wink

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What about "The Dead Ringer" Roll Eyes. I guess that actually is sick.

Congrats on the Book Craig.

On a side note, and certainly not to digress or take the thunder, and of course speaking of recently published titles from fellow collectors, Mike Bortner just published his book on Japanese battle flags and 1000 stictch belts.


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How about this title,,

THE RING OF THE ELITE:SS TK HONOR RING

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Any ideas on when this book is available ?

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Coburg22 won the contest. His entry is shown in bold below.

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Advanced study of the Nazi SS Totenkopf Honor Ring
Band of Honor
Band of Silver
Brothers of the ring - Himmlers inner circle
Brothers of the Skull
CIRCLE OF SILVER - The history of the SS honor ring
CLASS RINGS of HELL 1933-1945
Collector's Guide to SS HONOR RING
Complete Analogy of SS HONOR RING
DAS TOTENKOPFRING DER SS
Der Totenkopfring der SS
Death and Honor
DEATHHEAD HONOR RING OF THE SS
Death's Honor
Devil's HONOR RING
From Munich to Nuremberg: History of the SS Totenkopfring
Guide to ELITE SS HONOR RING 1933-45
Himmler's Honor Rings of the SS
HIMMLER'S LASTING LEGACY - THE TK RING
HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING - AN HISTORICAL ANALYSIS
HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING - AN HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE
HIMMLER'S LEGACY - THE TOTENKOPF RING - A STUDY OF THE DEATH HEAD
HIMMLER'S MYSTICAL LEGACY - THE TK RING
Himmler's Ring of Death", History of The SS Honor Ring
HIMMLER'S RUNIC LEGACY - THE TK RING
Himmler's Sacred Order - An illustrated guide to Der Totenkopfring der SS
Himmler's SS Honor Rings
HIMMLER'S SS HONOR RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
Himmler's SS Ring of Honor
History of the SS Honor Ring
Hitlers SS Elite - A history of the SS Honour Ring
HONOR RINGS OF THE SS
Men Of Pure Blood! A Study Of The SS Honor Ring
Men of Steel - Rings of Silver
My Honor is True
Nazi SS Honor Ring
Pledge of Honor
Power of the Ring
RING OF HONOR (SS THIRD REICH)
Ring of Power
Rings of Death
Rings of Deception
Rings of Destiny
Rings of Evil - Myth and Legend
Rings of Hitler's Elite
Rings of Steel Men
Rings of the Death Head
Rings of the Wolf
Runic Idealism of Nazi Germany
Silver & Black, Death's Head Rings of Hitler's SS
Silver Armor
Silver Rings / Men of Steel
Skull Rings of the SS Totenkopf
SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS 1933-1945
SS Honor Rings of the 3rd Reich
SS "THE RING OF DEATH" - History of The SS Honor Ring
SS Totenkopfring - Circle of Honor
SS Totenkopfring - Circle of Honor and Loyalty
SS Totenkopfring - Circle of Loyalty
The Inner Circle
Their honour was loyality. The ss totenkopfring myths and facts
The Order of The Honor Ring Of The Schutstaffel (The History)
THE SS DEATH HEAD RING
The SS Honour Ring - A collector�s guide
The SS Totenkopf Honor Ring. Up close, in depth, and personal!
The SS Totenkopf Ring - Award of Himmler's Elite
The SS Totenkopf Ring - Himmler's Elite Award
The Totenkopf Ring - Award of Himmler's Elite
The Totenkopf Ring - Himmler's Elite Award
TOTENKOPFRING OF THE SS THIRD REICH
Tragen Sie den ring in Ehren!
WEAR WITH HONOR!! RING OF THE SS
WEAR THIS RING WITH HONOR! - H. Himmlers gift of Loyalty and Thanks.
Weissthor�s Magic Ring Tor nach Thule (gate to thule)
WENN ALLE UNTREU WERDEN...
We Pledge our Honor
Within the Circle
Worn with honor
WORN WITH HONOR, THE SS DEATHS HEAD RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY
WORN WITH HONOR, THE SS HONOR RINGS OF NAZI GERMANY

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Just an update on this contest. Coburg22 won the contest, as you all know (interesting that his winning entry was also his first post on GDC). The reason I picked his entry was that I found that it perfectly encapsulated the historical significance of the Totenkopf Ring and why it is so fascinating to me. As the book will show, the ring is really a "marker" whose history closely parallels the rise and fall of the Third Reich. It also did not glorify the SS, which is something that a book on this subject could easily do. James: Please email me with your address and other contact information. I will make sure you are among the first to receive your personally signed and numbered copies.


Craig Gottlieb
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