#80270
06/16/2006 03:51 PM
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This knife came along with some daggers I bought the other day. It's marked Willian Rogers Sheffield England on the top of the guard. I know this was the primary British fighting knife of WW II but little else. Any idea of the collectibility or value?
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#80271
06/16/2006 06:00 PM
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A knife just like that was sold on a swedish auction site a while ago. I think the price ended somewhere around 50 USD, maybe 60. But that is not to be taken as a guideline for the value, as most people on that site only buy bad "german" repros, and only a few are interested in other edged weapons (and only a few of the few know anything about it). I dont even know if the one that was sold was real. Besides, it was sold as a "german dress dagger".
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#80272
06/16/2006 07:53 PM
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There have been many generations of these daggers. The original WWII ones seem to sell at over $250 at shows. Maybe someone can explain to us the various vintages.
Dave
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#80273
06/16/2006 07:58 PM
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hi, whilst i don`t know too much about each `generation` of these, they must be just about unique on this forum , as they are still being made/issued to this day to the british armed forces. they are the stock weapon of the royal marine commando`s to name but one user, modern knives that aren`t repros!!.
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#80274
06/16/2006 09:17 PM
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I have a presentation one. It was given to a friend of mine when he left 41 Commando RM in about 1965.
Dave
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#80275
06/16/2006 10:02 PM
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Here it is. No scabbard. Plated blade.
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#80276
06/16/2006 10:03 PM
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Made by Wilkinson Sword.
Dave
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#80277
06/17/2006 07:29 PM
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Dave here we go 1st pattern produced from january 1941 to april 1941
Regards Sean
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#80278
06/17/2006 07:36 PM
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2nd pattern produced from april 1941 to early 1943
Regards Sean
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#80279
06/17/2006 07:41 PM
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3rd pattern produced from early 1943 to 1945
Regards Sean
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#80280
06/17/2006 07:46 PM
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there are also other variants like the ribs & beads grip, ribs & ropes grip, wood grips. hope this helps you out Sean
Regards Sean
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#80281
06/17/2006 08:25 PM
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Well now I know that mines a 3rd pattern. This is becomming an interesting thread. I don't believe these we ever discussed here before. What is the purpose of the "tabs" on the scabbard? Jim
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#80282
06/17/2006 09:08 PM
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These are really interesting knives and there is a market out there for them. I think they are more widely collected in UK and Canada. I have a picture around here somewhere of a Geman soldier carrying one. Here's an interesting link. http://gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/fs/fs_knife.htm
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#80283
06/17/2006 09:09 PM
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jim yours is post war the cast seam down the sides of the grip was removed on war time knives,they also had a mould number cast in to the top of the pommel(1,2,3 or4)see picture. value of yours about �40 the tabs are for stitching to clothing ie trousers
Regards Sean
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#80284
06/18/2006 01:38 AM
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lakesidetrader: That must have been one of the few swedish militaria site links that I have missed. Thanks a lot!
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