#79996
08/13/2006 01:02 PM
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Picked up this gem at the MCCofC show this weekend. Canadian vet bring back as we where tasked with cleaning up the German ports after D DAY till the armastice. This award was for workers at French ports and there was a much different one for Norway. Can be seen in Niemen vol 2 p285.Neat it has survived on the card as these are not marked or numbered so we know who made them. They where issued with a document.
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#79997
08/13/2006 01:06 PM
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this is the reverse of the card
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#79998
08/22/2006 03:03 AM
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Nice stickpin, but the LDO card does not show who the maker is. LDO means: Leistungsgemeinschaft deutscher Ordenshersteller, or Administration of German Orders Manufacturers. The LDO required manufacturers to affix their assigned "L" numbers to specified orders/decorations, (but not to all, to the dismay of modern-day collectors). A good listing of assigned LDO numbers is in the back of Angolia's Vol.1. I have a silver version, also unmarked, from a veteran back in 1975, & wish I knew the maker.
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#79999
08/22/2006 04:40 AM
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hey thanks for that info always thought that was a maker. Also Niemann does not list grades of this award so your silver is news.I wonder whether the number 0041 denotes the maker ?
PAUL
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08/22/2006 02:16 PM
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I don't think the nr. 0041 denotes the maker, I have probably 40+ stickpins on LDO cards & many have this nr. on them; to me it seems like a stock nr. for the card itself. This Submarine Shipyard Workers Badge is covered a bit on page 339 in Angolia's Volume 2. On 27.8.1944, an article on this badge appeared in the German Gr�ne Press (Green Press) showing some pictures of shipyard workers, & a picture of the badge.
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08/22/2006 02:47 PM
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I have a copy of the original German text from that 27.8.44 "Gr�nen Post", & here it is as it appeared, in German: (perhaps someone may properly translate this into English),- "Kamerad Werftmann",- Kamerad Werftmann ist der treue Helfer unserer U-Boot-M�nner und ist ihr bester Kamerad. Stolz tr�gt er das Werftleistungsabzeichen (rechts) das U-Boot mit Zahnkranz und Hoheitsabzeichen. Mancher Werftmann hat schon im ersten Weltkrieg auf einer U-Boot-Werft gearbeitet, war damals vielleicht unten in Pola und steht heute droben am Atlantik, wo er seine Erfahrungen mit Erfolg einsetzt. Die Werftm�nner fahren mit und leben in ihrer Arbeit. Es sind ihre U-Boote, die sie �berholen und die sie wieder bereit zur Feindfahrt machen. Und wie diesem st�hlernen Pfeil ihr ganzes Herz geh�rt, so schaffen sie unentwegt selbst mit an den Verbesserungen von Maschinen und Ger�ten. Zum Beispiel: Der Werkf�hrer G. Kreis hat einen Apparat zur Luftverbesserung konstruiert. Nach langer Feindfahrt kehrt ein U-Boot zur�ck. Kamerad U-Boot-Mann und Kamerad Werftmann haben sich nicht vergessen, haben ihre gemeinsame Arbeit und die frohen Stunden der Arbeitspause w�hrend der letzten Liegezeit in herzlicher Erinnerung. Nun kreuzen die alten Freunde auf: "Hallo, Jungs! Hallo wie geht es euch?" Jeder der Werftm�nner hat gewissermassen so etwas wie ein Spezial-Boot, eines, das ihm besonders am Herzen liegt, und meistens ist es das, auf dem ein guter Freund schwimmt. Wenn dann die beiden zusammengeraten, dann gibt es einen H�ndedruck, der aus Kieselsteinen Wasser quetscht. Hopefully one of our German-speaking members can translate this so we might have a better understanding of this rare badge.
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#80002
08/22/2006 06:59 PM
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PERHAPS you could post this over in the German translation forum
PAUL
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08/22/2006 09:38 PM
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08/22/2006 10:25 PM
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so what is your opinion about the 0041 number does in mean bender is the maker ?
Paul
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#80005
08/22/2006 10:46 PM
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As stated, 0041 is most likely associated with the maker of the paper card. Not the actual award. Stock number or something.
I posted the list for reference.
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#80006
08/22/2006 10:54 PM
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At one time there was a post by Mr. Stump covering these awards and repros. Have not so far located it.
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#80007
08/22/2006 10:57 PM
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I also have one of these, but not in as good shape. There is no TM on the reverse of mine.
TKissinger
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#80008
08/23/2006 01:37 AM
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Very nice and a tough pin. I agree that the 0041 isn't the maker but maybe a stock number. Are the any markings on the back?
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#80009
08/23/2006 02:46 AM
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NOPE no marks on any of the one which have come to light here so far
Paul
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