#79814
09/10/2007 04:09 PM
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Whatever period it is from I think it's essential to find and obtain as many period references as you can, if I cannot find a period reference then I'll buy a repop. This Waffenfabrik Max Weyersberg reference came in today,dated 1935 it lists a few items they made at that time including there forestry and hunting hirschfängers, I know that I have been beaten many times to period catalouges in the last few years  on German ebay by another forum member, perhaps he would like to contribute towards this thread as I would like to see what other makers hirschfängers looked like from all periods. So Damast I hope you still have them and are willing to show us some scans. Cheers  Gary
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09/10/2007 04:13 PM
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Here's a few from a 1926 dated Henckels catalouge.
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09/10/2007 05:40 PM
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Heres a few scans from a late 1920's early 1930's WKC catalouge.
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09/10/2007 05:44 PM
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09/10/2007 05:46 PM
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09/10/2007 06:01 PM
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#79824
09/10/2007 08:04 PM
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G.,
Great stuff there!
What's number 823 listed as? Don't think I've seen one of these examples first hand..?
These catalogs should be a collector's best friend.
Thanks!
Bill
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#79825
09/10/2007 08:16 PM
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Bill
823 is not listed as anything specific but it is a Baden hirschfänger pattern, one of these in so-so condition just went through the last Herman Historica auction, now it's on H Weitze site.
The little shorty to the side of it though is mentioned as a Sachsen förster hirschfänger neus Modell.
What I haven't seen before is a WKC ADJV Ehrenhirschfänger Pattern 103, now thats one I would like to find in decent condition.
Thanks
G.
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#79826
09/10/2007 08:59 PM
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Great posting Gary... Thank you for the pix... See you at MAX ........... 
Lou Bell
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#79827
09/11/2007 12:25 AM
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Thank you Gary, A terrific gift to all the Hirschfanger collectors.
I will check my old catalogues to see if I can add anything to this post.
Sincerely,
HUBERTUS
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#79828
09/11/2007 08:11 PM
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Thanks Gary! Great referencing material here!
"Endeavor to Persevere"
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#79829
09/11/2007 11:47 PM
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My thanks also! Appreciate it. Wish I could reciprocate.
Regards,--dj--Joe
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#79830
09/12/2007 02:54 AM
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Yes, I still have my catalogs from the 1880's on up. Even have a phone (Address book) for Solingen 1936 (little different I guess) I have been buying old cataloges etc... since the 70's
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#79831
09/12/2007 04:43 PM
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Hi Damast
You must have a wonderful collection, can you post some scans of hirschfängers for us to see, I love reference, I get as much a buzz from a catalouge as I do a hirschfänger.
I believe you picked up a Original Imperial Eickhorn catalouge a few months ago, a very rare catalouge indeed.
Thanks
Gary
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#79832
09/12/2007 09:53 PM
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At this time I'm working on a few great reprints. They will be on my website www.eickhorn.com The web site is being worked on now.
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#79833
09/13/2007 07:36 PM
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Here's a few more, Anton Wingen Jnr from 1935.
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#79834
09/13/2007 07:38 PM
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Large knives from the same catalouge
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09/13/2007 07:40 PM
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09/15/2007 09:19 PM
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09/15/2007 09:21 PM
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09/15/2007 09:23 PM
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09/15/2007 09:35 PM
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I do have a more Imperials.
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#79841
10/26/2007 03:53 PM
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This is the only Alcoso reference I have for hirschfängers from the 3rd Reich period.
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10/26/2007 03:55 PM
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10/26/2007 05:16 PM
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10/26/2007 07:05 PM
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Holler 1938, I dream to find some of these baby's.
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10/26/2007 07:07 PM
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#79857
10/27/2007 11:36 PM
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This will be a upcoming reprint. Year about 1900 with about 90 pages. SUPER RARE!!
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#79858
10/27/2007 11:37 PM
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10/29/2007 12:14 AM
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Gary et Willi- I think an 823 just sold on ebay with a plain blade. (Probably while you were MAXing it up.) I was looking at it but went another direction with the same seller. I do think Mr Huberto snagged it. Damast- are you also interested in accordions? If so, we chatted a bit a few years ago- I bought a bunch of books from you. Looks like I'll be doing it again.
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#79860
11/09/2007 04:56 PM
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Yes, besides my machine shop,I grew up in a music store may father built concertinas and rebuilt accordions along with the ather music store goodies.The store brought me to Italy and Germany yearly.I have a brother that builds basses guitars etc..www.brownsguitarfactory.com and another brother that rebuilds and sells hammond organs and is 1st call player in MPLS, MN www.hammondorgan.com I once saw a hohner accordion made in the 30s with swazes on the reeds. anyway here is a picture from a ORIGINAL W.K.C. Imperial....
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#79861
11/09/2007 05:01 PM
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mispelled some words again!!!
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01/27/2008 09:40 PM
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Cover of a Eickhorn export catalog 1913
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02/05/2008 07:12 PM
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I just got a 1930 Eickhorn catalouge in and I can add to a few of the hirschfängers I posted before, this catalouge gives us some more information on some of the hirschfängers.
Hessen
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#79864
02/05/2008 07:14 PM
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Baden, Thüringen and Mecklenburg
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02/05/2008 07:15 PM
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02/05/2008 07:20 PM
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fascinating - many thanks for sharing this excellent & rare material!
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02/06/2008 01:08 PM
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Gary & Damast,
Your sharing of this great info is much appreciated on this end...
Thank you......
Lou Bell
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#79869
02/06/2008 07:52 PM
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What surprised me was pattern # 1079, I had no idea that one was for Hessen, I just noticed the clamshells are the same, I personally would not have noticed that unless they were side by side. Hopefully this thread will be saved and we can all use it as a reference when we find a new hirschfänger, I'll certainly add to it whenever I find a new catalouge. If anybody has a catalouge with hirschfängers in it then please add some scans to this thread.
Cheers
Gary
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04/24/2008 04:43 PM
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This one is from the WKC catalouge, weimar period. Standhauers only.
Gary
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05/21/2008 02:31 PM
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I have the Eickhorn #953 from above that has a dedication on the blade from 1905. Eick must have kept there models for a long time! 25 or 30 years later still in the catolog! Very interesting,THANKS for posting great info BAZ69. Kevin.
It's ALL in the DETAILS!!.......
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05/22/2008 08:12 PM
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Kevin
Please if you can post your 953 variety, in a new thread if you can to leave this as just period reference.
Cheers
Gary
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12/21/2008 10:04 PM
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Thought I would dig this post up again. 1901 Eickhorn Imperial catalog The plates are great!!!
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12/21/2008 10:05 PM
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I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciate this older thread.
--dj--Joe
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[quote=Baz69][/quote]
Thx for sharing your great Eickhorn 1930 catalogue Gary!
You show the Mecklenburg 972 Hirschfänger on post 79864, i recently bought this type and was looking for some info, great to see its an Eickhorn for Mecklenburg.
My skinner bears an etch like the 993 Model.
Thx a lot!
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Ger
I also thank all the other gents that share their period reference too!
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man I'd love to have that Standhauer # 27 ! anyone have one? or similar?
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Here's the 28 pattern, same knife but different scabbard.
Gary
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Wow Baz,,, freakin nice!,,like that...,, great condition too. Never seen one before.... Thanks for posting!
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Yes, really nice stuff.
I like the F Dula's, my Puma's will have to do for now.
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Very interesting and useful. Thanks for posting this!
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Thank you all very kindly for posting these very useful catalogs. I just found my Eickhorn Nr. 791 in the 1932ish catalog. It is also listed as Saufanger # 8718 in the 1912 August Stukenbrok catalog on page 162.
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This is page 162 of Moderne Waffen, Munition, Jagdartikel, August Stukenbrok, Einbeck. It was published about 1912 and note: these are all Carl Eickhorn models. This is from the original catalog. Collection of C. Wetzel.
Last edited by C. Wetzel-20609; 11/13/2022 06:54 PM. Reason: Changed copy to catalog
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Excellent.. Love seeing stuff like this...
Did any of these companies make any folding knives.. I have an old one and saw it in a period advert for it once but haven't been able to find it again. Got it many years ago and it was still in its old original box and wrapper [which I threw out!]... Has a couple blades, a corkscrew.. Very high quality...
Here's a couple photos of it...
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Page 163, August Stukenbrok 1912 catalog with Saufeder (Boarspear), probably made by Carl Eickhorn. Below the spear are Jagdmessers (Hunting knives) made by J. Albert Schmidt, Kuno Ritter later acquired the remnants of this business in 1950, using the brand name of "Hubertus". The next page, 164 shows some of the brand names of J. Albert Schmidt: "Halali", "Nimrod", "Horrido" and "Hubertus". Below these are some Nickers and Dolches and I don't know the maker. I have seen the "Jagers Freund" (Hunters friend) metal attachment on ebay recently.
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CW,,, much thanks!! Real nice advert. That # 8747 is pretty close to mine..
- Checked,,only one blade marked on mine - BARGEON and then INOX under that.. Fine fine quality stag horn,,and the whole knife itself is super sturdy, well made..
Thanks again for the advert , appreciate it very much., Gaspare
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Hey Gaspare, your knife is from France and is probably vintage from the 1960's. It did not look that old to me, but then I have been around for a long time. Check out this link and see Images--https://www.bing.com/search?q=bargeon+inox&FORM=HDRSC1
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- CW.,,, Thanks,,,,so French,,around 1960... I got it new in New Old Stock in box around early 1970s....
Another member emailed me a very similar advert ,,I'll post , maybe of help to someone...
- Thanks again CW...
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J. E. Dittert & Co. catalog (cover and one page).
Carl Holz, Tuttlingen, Gegrundet 1837, 1895 catalog (cover and two pages).
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those are real nice period reference. How are you keeping them? In mylar, acid free backing boards etc.?
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Gaspare, they belong to a friend of mine.
The 1895 "Carl Holz, Tuttlingen" catalog was copied from the original that is located in the VICTORINOX museum at Ibach, Switzerland.
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Gaspare, they belong to a friend of mine.
The 1895 "Carl Holz, Tuttlingen" catalog was copied from the original that is located in the VICTORINOX museum at Ibach, Switzerland. Previous owner of that outstanding Carl Holz catalog was Horst Brunner from Winterthur/Switzerland. I learned to know his outstanding collection of pocket knives from all over the world and his knife related archives during the late 1980s. He was the leading expert in late 1800s Solingen made Swiss Army knives and follow-up VICTORINOX / Carl Elsener and WENGER Swiss Army Knmives. Whe he passed away all his collection was acquired by Victorinox.
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Hi Chevalier,
my friend, Mr. Kashammer, sent this reply when I questioned him about the 1895 "Carl Holz, Tuttlingen" catalog on Oct. 31, 2022:
"This catalog was in the collection of Horst Brunner, Switzerland. When he passed away his collection went to Victorinox. Brunner had also a tremideous number of Musterbücher. I was twice at Ibach to see the collection of Horst. And one time I also saw the catalogs. There is a book. Feuer and Feuerschlagmesser which is sometimes on Ebay to get. And there are some sides catalogs printed. I made my own Musterbuch of these pages. Greetings".
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D-Day
by ed773 - 06/06/2023 12:56 PM
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D-Day
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