#7761
05/22/2010 06:34 PM
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Is there someone else who has an early Luftwaffe sword in a box?
I am in possesion of one ( Puma ) unissued
I am very curious....i already saw late model Aluminium in Germany ( Helmut Weitze) but never
saw another one.
Please can you inform me?
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#7762
05/22/2010 06:37 PM
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#7763
05/22/2010 06:46 PM
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Only ever dreamed of one!!
Beauty thanks for sharing!
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#7764
05/22/2010 06:54 PM
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Would this be the way it was given to the customer at the retail level?
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#7765
05/22/2010 06:54 PM
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that is a very rare find. a real beauty. like it was in a time capsule. really great. thanks for showing it.
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#7766
05/22/2010 07:08 PM
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Thanks Paul, your reactions are alway's so positive!
This box whas found 2 years ago in an old distribution center in Germany.
It never reached his address, it had to be send to : Oberleutnant Wilhelm Paeschke, von der Tinnestrasse 13 Munster
See picture
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#7767
05/22/2010 07:15 PM
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I know what I want for Christmas!! Great stuff.
Can you post some closeups of the belt,hanger and the sword of course!!!!
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#7768
05/22/2010 07:24 PM
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Almost certainly one of a kind!
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#7769
05/22/2010 07:53 PM
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Maybe if the guy is still alive you can finally present him with his sword. lol Only kidding but that is a beauty, wow!
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#7770
05/22/2010 08:00 PM
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#7771
05/22/2010 08:02 PM
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#7772
05/22/2010 08:06 PM
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#7773
05/22/2010 08:09 PM
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#7774
05/22/2010 08:55 PM
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A very impressive find!! Congratulations !!!  FP
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#7775
05/23/2010 01:18 AM
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Superb find! Never saw the box before! Ed Sunday has 14 mint swords but no box! Better step up ED! 
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#7776
05/23/2010 02:21 AM
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#7777
05/23/2010 04:41 AM
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Teriffic piece ! Hard enough to find one by Puma , but in a box with hardware too boot ! Yeah I'd like to buy that one !
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#7778
05/23/2010 08:12 AM
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Peter, Very nice. If you'd like me to deliver it to the officer, who's surely retired by now  , just send it over and i'll "take care" of delivery for you . I was tossing around what something like this would be worth, monitarily speaking. Gauging a value on this piece would be really difficult. We all know there havn't been any pieces this complete sold in contemporary times. A one-of-a-kind score, which is surely not to happen again anytime soon. Very well done. Tom
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#7779
05/23/2010 01:11 PM
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I think this one came from "Dragoner08" and was sold for around 3000 EUR in 2008?
Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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#7780
05/23/2010 02:30 PM
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A beauty and just the way you like to find them so there is no argument as to originality or source.
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#7781
05/23/2010 02:39 PM
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Here is some interesting information that might be related to this officer:
Wilhelm Paeschke
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Ph.D. Georg-August-Universität Göttingen 1937
Dissertation: Experimentelle Untersuchungen zum Rauhigkeits- und Stabilitaetsproblem in der bodennahen Luftschicht
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#7782
05/23/2010 04:34 PM
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This is the google translation. quote: Experimentelle Untersuchungen zum Rauhigkeits- und Stabilitaetsproblem in der bodennahen Luftschicht
"Experimental investigations to the roughness and stability problem in the near-surface air layer" Does this mean he was part of the early missle program in Germany?
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#7783
05/23/2010 07:54 PM
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Thanks guy's for all the nice reactions, yes it's a very nice piece and i am very happy with it.
If you Google to that address you can see the house is still there but not the Fa.Paeschke anymore...never the less i will keep on searching!
Kind regards to all,
Peter
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#7784
05/24/2010 12:07 AM
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If that Google search is for the man in question, I would be looking for him in the U.S., not Europe. As well, I would concentrate my search in the Alabama area..!
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#7785
05/24/2010 01:34 AM
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I just ran a search on this person and found this: cgi.ebay.pl/Platinring-PT-950-Durchmesser-17-3mm-4-.
I think it may be the same person.
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#7786
05/24/2010 07:58 PM
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Doug- I did a couple web searches on him, and found allusion to him in Alabama, though the details were shotty and pretty sparce (WOW- touchy filter-I had to change the spelling since the filter believed it was a profanity  ). Did he immigrate to the US after the war and teach at an Alabama university? Tom
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#7787
05/25/2010 04:28 PM
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Tom, I am thinking with his involvement in rocketry, that he was invited over to work on America's rocket program courtesy of the U.S. govt..
Alabama is the home of experimental rocketry.
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#7788
05/26/2010 02:08 AM
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HI Doug-
That's kinda' what I figured..Op. Paperclip.
Thanks for the response Doug.
Tom
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#7789
05/26/2010 12:25 PM
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BOB C
Buying big and small collections
Kriegsmarine daggers and Samurai swords
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#7790
05/26/2010 03:21 PM
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What a wondeful complete early 1st Luft package !  Note the early nickel swords came with a wooden box while the later Aluminum versions were of cardboard. Congrats ! -serge-
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#7791
05/27/2010 12:28 AM
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If you go to the ebay site I posted above there are several photos of this Officer in his uniform. Here's part of what they list:
Privatfotonachlass of the (last rank) Major William Paeschke, who startet his career on the battleship Derfflinger as a naval engineer-Applicant, and further on imperial submarines, cruiser Emden, 2nd Freikorps Ehrhardt/ von Löwenfeldt , etc. and finally ended as a Major in the Air Force World War II (Air Research Institute Herman Goering) . Paescke also worked at Peenemünde.
Very intereing the foto with the bajonett/dagger, that shows him during his time at the Freikorps Marinebrigade von Löwenfeldt.
As evidence of the person his original drivers license of 1928 is enclosed.
Where he went after the war is not mentioned.
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#7792
05/27/2010 01:01 AM
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I believe this is your man.
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#7793
05/28/2010 01:08 PM
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Wow. What an interesting career. Very cool.
Peenemünde...I guess that says it all. Nice one way ticket to a new life in the United States...sure beat the alternative.
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#7794
06/01/2010 12:33 PM
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It is a strange box normally you would expect a Puma logo on the box.
Who is Carl Klappenbach from Uelsen?
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#7795
06/02/2010 02:47 PM
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Most likely the dealer or distributor for uniform effekten
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#7796
06/02/2010 03:14 PM
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Dear Notaguru,
I just saw your reaction, wow thanks a lot for your research, i appreciate this very much!
Kind regards,
Peter
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#7797
06/02/2010 07:40 PM
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Anytime. I've always appreciated it when collectors took the time to help me find information.
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#7798
06/03/2010 04:02 AM
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Notaguru-great stuff. To expand on your comment- Would that be a 1919 Naval in the 7 O'clock photo? It looks like it is hanging like an earlier single hanger ring piece but to my eye certainly a dagger with knot. Do we know the dates of his service? Obviously a dedicated man.
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#7799
06/03/2010 03:03 PM
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Personally, I have no idea. I'm not well versed in Navy daggers.
The first reply I posted on this thread has an ebay listing of a lot of his record. I'm not sure it it's been sold yet. Go to: cgi.ebay.pl/Platinring-PT-950-Durchmesser-17-3mm-4-.
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Hello from Germany. I sold all of Wilhelms stuff on EBAY to a US-collector about 2010. His sword is still at "Weitze", Hamburg for sale, right ? https://www.weitze.net/detail/71/Luftwaf...en__225971.htmlWilhelm was Born 1893 and died 1949. I still have the fotos of his legacy in my archive. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Winni
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