#7761
05/22/2010 06:34 PM
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Is there someone else who has an early Luftwaffe sword in a box? I am in possesion of one ( Puma ) unissued I am very curious....i already saw late model Aluminium in Germany ( Helmut Weitze) but never saw another one.
Please can you inform me?
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#7762
05/22/2010 06:37 PM
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#7763
05/22/2010 06:46 PM
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Only ever dreamed of one!! Beauty thanks for sharing!
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#7764
05/22/2010 06:54 PM
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Would this be the way it was given to the customer at the retail level?
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#7765
05/22/2010 06:54 PM
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that is a very rare find. a real beauty. like it was in a time capsule. really great. thanks for showing it.
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#7766
05/22/2010 07:08 PM
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Thanks Paul, your reactions are alway's so positive!
This box whas found 2 years ago in an old distribution center in Germany. It never reached his address, it had to be send to : Oberleutnant Wilhelm Paeschke, von der Tinnestrasse 13 Munster
See picture
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#7767
05/22/2010 07:15 PM
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I know what I want for Christmas!! Great stuff. Can you post some closeups of the belt,hanger and the sword of course!!!!
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#7768
05/22/2010 07:24 PM
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Almost certainly one of a kind!
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#7769
05/22/2010 07:53 PM
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Maybe if the guy is still alive you can finally present him with his sword. lol Only kidding but that is a beauty, wow!
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#7770
05/22/2010 08:00 PM
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#7771
05/22/2010 08:02 PM
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#7772
05/22/2010 08:06 PM
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#7773
05/22/2010 08:09 PM
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#7774
05/22/2010 08:55 PM
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A very impressive find!! Congratulations !!! FP
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#7775
05/23/2010 01:18 AM
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Superb find! Never saw the box before! Ed Sunday has 14 mint swords but no box! Better step up ED!
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#7776
05/23/2010 02:21 AM
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#7777
05/23/2010 04:41 AM
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Teriffic piece ! Hard enough to find one by Puma , but in a box with hardware too boot ! Yeah I'd like to buy that one !
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#7778
05/23/2010 08:12 AM
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Peter, Very nice. If you'd like me to deliver it to the officer, who's surely retired by now , just send it over and i'll "take care" of delivery for you . I was tossing around what something like this would be worth, monitarily speaking. Gauging a value on this piece would be really difficult. We all know there havn't been any pieces this complete sold in contemporary times. A one-of-a-kind score, which is surely not to happen again anytime soon. Very well done. Tom
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#7779
05/23/2010 01:11 PM
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I think this one came from "Dragoner08" and was sold for around 3000 EUR in 2008? Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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#7780
05/23/2010 02:30 PM
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A beauty and just the way you like to find them so there is no argument as to originality or source.
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#7781
05/23/2010 02:39 PM
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Here is some interesting information that might be related to this officer: Wilhelm Paeschke
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Ph.D. Georg-August-Universit�t G�ttingen 1937 Dissertation: Experimentelle Untersuchungen zum Rauhigkeits- und Stabilitaetsproblem in der bodennahen Luftschicht
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#7782
05/23/2010 04:34 PM
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This is the google translation. quote: Experimentelle Untersuchungen zum Rauhigkeits- und Stabilitaetsproblem in der bodennahen Luftschicht
"Experimental investigations to the roughness and stability problem in the near-surface air layer" Does this mean he was part of the early missle program in Germany?
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#7783
05/23/2010 07:54 PM
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Thanks guy's for all the nice reactions, yes it's a very nice piece and i am very happy with it. If you Google to that address you can see the house is still there but not the Fa.Paeschke anymore...never the less i will keep on searching!
Kind regards to all,
Peter
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#7784
05/24/2010 12:07 AM
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If that Google search is for the man in question, I would be looking for him in the U.S., not Europe. As well, I would concentrate my search in the Alabama area..!
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#7785
05/24/2010 01:34 AM
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I just ran a search on this person and found this: cgi.ebay.pl/Platinring-PT-950-Durchmesser-17-3mm-4-. I think it may be the same person.
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#7786
05/24/2010 07:58 PM
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Doug- I did a couple web searches on him, and found allusion to him in Alabama, though the details were shotty and pretty sparce (WOW- touchy filter-I had to change the spelling since the filter believed it was a profanity ). Did he immigrate to the US after the war and teach at an Alabama university? Tom
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#7787
05/25/2010 04:28 PM
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Tom, I am thinking with his involvement in rocketry, that he was invited over to work on America's rocket program courtesy of the U.S. govt..
Alabama is the home of experimental rocketry.
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#7788
05/26/2010 02:08 AM
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HI Doug-
That's kinda' what I figured..Op. Paperclip.
Thanks for the response Doug.
Tom
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#7789
05/26/2010 12:25 PM
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BOB C Buying big and small collections Kriegsmarine daggers and Samurai swords
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#7790
05/26/2010 03:21 PM
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What a wondeful complete early 1st Luft package ! Note the early nickel swords came with a wooden box while the later Aluminum versions were of cardboard. Congrats ! -serge-
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#7791
05/27/2010 12:28 AM
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If you go to the ebay site I posted above there are several photos of this Officer in his uniform. Here's part of what they list:
Privatfotonachlass of the (last rank) Major William Paeschke, who startet his career on the battleship Derfflinger as a naval engineer-Applicant, and further on imperial submarines, cruiser Emden, 2nd Freikorps Ehrhardt/ von L�wenfeldt , etc. and finally ended as a Major in the Air Force World War II (Air Research Institute Herman Goering) . Paescke also worked at Peenem�nde.
Very intereing the foto with the bajonett/dagger, that shows him during his time at the Freikorps Marinebrigade von L�wenfeldt. As evidence of the person his original drivers license of 1928 is enclosed.
Where he went after the war is not mentioned.
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#7792
05/27/2010 01:01 AM
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I believe this is your man.
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#7793
05/28/2010 01:08 PM
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Wow. What an interesting career. Very cool.
Peenem�nde...I guess that says it all. Nice one way ticket to a new life in the United States...sure beat the alternative.
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#7794
06/01/2010 12:33 PM
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It is a strange box normally you would expect a Puma logo on the box. Who is Carl Klappenbach from Uelsen?
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#7795
06/02/2010 02:47 PM
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Most likely the dealer or distributor for uniform effekten
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#7796
06/02/2010 03:14 PM
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Dear Notaguru,
I just saw your reaction, wow thanks a lot for your research, i appreciate this very much!
Kind regards,
Peter
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#7797
06/02/2010 07:40 PM
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Anytime. I've always appreciated it when collectors took the time to help me find information.
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#7798
06/03/2010 04:02 AM
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Notaguru-great stuff. To expand on your comment- Would that be a 1919 Naval in the 7 O'clock photo? It looks like it is hanging like an earlier single hanger ring piece but to my eye certainly a dagger with knot. Do we know the dates of his service? Obviously a dedicated man.
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#7799
06/03/2010 03:03 PM
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Personally, I have no idea. I'm not well versed in Navy daggers. The first reply I posted on this thread has an ebay listing of a lot of his record. I'm not sure it it's been sold yet. Go to: cgi.ebay.pl/Platinring-PT-950-Durchmesser-17-3mm-4-.
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Hello from Germany. I sold all of Wilhelms stuff on EBAY to a US-collector about 2010. His sword is still at "Weitze", Hamburg for sale, right ? https://www.weitze.net/detail/71/Luftwaf...en__225971.htmlWilhelm was Born 1893 and died 1949. I still have the fotos of his legacy in my archive. Mit freundlichen Gr��en, Winni
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concerning the Navy-dagger:
sorry for poor english
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Hello from Germany. I sold all of Wilhelms stuff on EBAY to a US-collector about 2010. His sword is still at "Weitze", Hamburg for sale, right ? https://www.weitze.net/detail/71/Luftwaf...en__225971.htmlWilhelm was Born 1893 and died 1949. I still have the fotos of his legacy in my archive. Mit freundlichen Gr��en, Winni Wait, You sold the documents to someone in 2010. Peter has, or had, the sword. Now Weitze has the sword, and someone else his documents ? [/URL]
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Hello.
I sold 2010 everything, except the sword. The sword was not in Wilhelm Paeschkes inheritance. I do not know how Weitze got it . Perhaps it was sold to Weitze by a relative long before 2010. I do not remember the name of my buyer any more, maybe I should find out the name of the buyer again by looking in my PayPal account. Maybe the last 5 year old transactions are still visible. But anyway I think the main interst of the buyer were the documents and the pictures and the medals,badges,awards and not the Edged Weapons. He told me 2010, he was going to write a book about People like Paeschke.
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pfffff, very nice!!! What do you want more?
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