#76263
11/07/2007 10:49 AM
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Short model, with brown leather scabbard
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11/07/2007 10:51 AM
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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11/07/2007 10:53 AM
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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11/07/2007 10:54 AM
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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#76269
11/07/2007 10:56 AM
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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11/07/2007 10:58 AM
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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#76271
11/07/2007 10:59 AM
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8 the knot is unusually attached
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#76272
11/07/2007 11:07 AM
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9 The dedication:
"In Erinnerung an Königgrätz Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren" = "In memory of Königgrätz protectorat of Bohemia and Moravia"
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#76273
11/07/2007 11:09 AM
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10 "zur" and not "in " Erinnerung (  )
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11/07/2007 11:11 AM
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11/07/2007 11:26 AM
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11/07/2007 11:28 AM
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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11/07/2007 11:32 AM
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"Wer sein eigener Lehrmeister sein will, hat einen Narren als Sch?ler" (He who wants to be his own master, has a idiot for a pupil)
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11/07/2007 11:34 AM
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11/07/2007 11:36 AM
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11/07/2007 11:37 AM
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#76295
11/07/2007 11:38 AM
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No maker marking on the blade, 42 cm hight.
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#76296
11/07/2007 02:12 PM
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I'm sorry -but I see several red flags here-
Usually with an etch like this the blade will be triple etched
The etch does not seem to be high quality and it does not look like the blade has been nickel plated over the etch. Possibly just the photo.
The grip rivets look like they have been tampered with
The grip eagle is the type for a sword
The unit mentioned seems to be improper for a rural police bayonet
Based on what I can see it seems to me that the etch is post war and the grip emblem has been replaced.
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#76297
11/07/2007 02:50 PM
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Jochen,
I am afraid I agree with Houston. Königgrätz is a town in B-M and if this is a municipal bayonet it should have a black scabbard.
The thick stag grips and plated rivets are also red flags for me and I agree that the bayonet appears to have been assembled postwar. The poor etch seems like other assembled postwar etched wartime bayonets that I have seen in Germany in the past.
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#76298
11/07/2007 04:58 PM
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Houston and Orpo,
Thanks for your precious judgments!
Fortunately, I don't paid a lot for this dagger ... (changed against an ordinary fireman bayonet on a fly market)I think there are many authentic parts in this weapon, but as you say, certainly assembled postwar.
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#76299
11/08/2007 02:16 AM
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What a Disappointment!!!!!!!!
Glad for all of the 'Eagle Eyes' on GDC!!!
Sure does make a nice "Filler" for a while.. Dave/dblmed
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#76300
11/08/2007 02:43 AM
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Not a bad deal for the price of an ordinary fire bayonet. A shame it's not period.
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