#75427
11/06/2007 02:38 PM
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HI EXPERTS
I`M IN THE POSSITION TO BUY A JAPANESE SWORD. THERE ARE SOME TANGMARKINGS ON IT. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE MARKINGS IS IT AN ORIGINAL ONE. I HAVE ZERO EXSPERIANCE WITH JAPANESE SWORDS BUT I LIKE TO HAVE ONE BECAUSE OF THERE HISTORY
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#75428
11/06/2007 02:39 PM
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#75429
11/06/2007 02:40 PM
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#75430
11/06/2007 02:41 PM
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#75431
11/06/2007 02:42 PM
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#75432
11/06/2007 04:17 PM
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HELP!!!!!!!! HWO CAN READ THIS CARACTERS?
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#75433
11/06/2007 07:49 PM
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yoshi mitsu? but from the file marks and chippy signature this is a machine made blade not a true japanese sword
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#75434
11/06/2007 07:50 PM
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it is also dated 1943 i think
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#75435
11/06/2007 09:46 PM
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Looks like stainless steel is it perhaps in Navy fittings?Photos of the scabbard and hilt would help.
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#75436
11/07/2007 03:53 PM
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THE SIGNATURE IS YOSHIMICHI.
"A man needs to know his limitations" Dirty Harry Gold Badge #263
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#75437
11/07/2007 06:35 PM
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HI BOB
PERHAPS A STUPIDE QUESTION BUT WHAT IS YOSHIMICHI IS THAT A SWORDSMID? I`LL MADE SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES
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#75438
11/07/2007 07:19 PM
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Hi
Here some additional pictures. The top of the blade is a tittle thicker is that normal?
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#75439
11/07/2007 07:20 PM
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11/07/2007 07:22 PM
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11/07/2007 07:22 PM
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#75442
11/07/2007 07:25 PM
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#75443
11/07/2007 07:27 PM
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#75444
11/08/2007 02:02 AM
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quote: Originally posted by janjan: HI BOB
PERHAPS A STUPIDE QUESTION BUT WHAT IS YOSHIMICHI IS THAT A SWORDSMID?
NOT A STUPID QUESTION AT ALL. THE PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM IS TO ASK QUESTIONS TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE. YOSHIMICHI IS THE SWORD MAKER'S NAME. MANY SUCH SEMI SKILLED INDIVIDUALS WORKED FOR THE IJA AND THEIR FULL NAMES ARE LOST TO HISTORY. FROM THE STYLE OF CHOPPY STROKES IN THE SIGNATURE AND DATE, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE THAT THIS IS LIKELY AN ARSENAL MADE OIL TEMPERED BLADE, NOT A TRADITIONAL HAND MADE, WATER TEMPERED SWORD. IT IS A NICE EXAMPLE OF A STANDARD IMPERIAL JAPANESE ARMY OFFICER'S SWORD.
"A man needs to know his limitations" Dirty Harry Gold Badge #263
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#75445
11/08/2007 02:38 AM
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Hi,
The mei is YoshiChika.
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#75446
11/08/2007 04:30 AM
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KM thanks again for your translation work! We really are gratefull for having a Japanese speaker on board! Regarding sword I see a Nagoya arsenal inspection mark.
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#75447
11/08/2007 10:22 AM
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Great looking sword I hope you can buy it .Rob.
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#75448
11/08/2007 11:25 AM
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The name is Yoshi Chika his real name is Yoshioka Tetsujiro -registered seki gunto smiths during the war in the city of seki. The stamp is Nagoya Arsenal,I think it is a good oil tempered sword,see the coller off the tang.
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#75449
11/09/2007 10:02 PM
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HI
THANK FOR ALL REPLYS. I LEARNED ABOUT JAPANESE SWORDS BUT I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED. WHO IS THE REAL SWORDMAKER. NICKN2 TIPS ON YOSHI MICHU,BOB ON YOSHIMICHI KM AND ADDIJOS ON YOSHI CHIKA NOW I DON`T KNOW. WHO IS THE REAL SWORDMAKER?
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#75450
11/10/2007 01:54 AM
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MY ERROR. YOSHICHIKA IS CORRECT.
"A man needs to know his limitations" Dirty Harry Gold Badge #263
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#75451
11/10/2007 04:10 AM
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Doing any research on any specific smith with this name is a waste of time as it doesn't have any significance. It's just a WWII machine made blade with medium-low quality mounts.
I haven't paid any interest in recent prices for gunto, but don't rush into a purchase unless you are buying locally for under $700. Otherwise, there are tons of examples of these inconsequential swords available at any time online.
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#75452
11/10/2007 03:54 PM
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Hi
There are alway forum members who are ownly intested in mony Mr. Hamrad. It took me a long time to save the mony for this sword,all the other members like to help to find the sword smit and I appriciate that. Ownly you pul the sword down is that a form of jalousy?
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#75453
11/20/2007 03:06 AM
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I see still nobody else is addressing this topic...
The reason I worded my reply like I did was because it seemed that you were being rushed into purchasing. Added to that, you kept on asking about who made the blade, while nobody replying seemed to realize that maybe you would put too much research into a meaningless name.
That doesn't however mean what I said is untrue. For what you probably paid, with a little time, research and hunting you could have found a nice sword.
I am also going to add that 'addijos' is wrong. Why a Seki smith(whom I believe forged traditionally made swords) would use a Nagoya stamp just doesn't make sense, even though the two cities are relatively close. It also does not look like it is tempered in any way.
The date isn't legible other than the month, but taking into account everything visible in the pictures, it is most likely from November '44, right before they switched to the very low quality late war style mounts.
I assure you that while I'm not going to claim to be an expert on this or any subject, I have studied this field for a long time and am not so petty as to be jealous of some online stranger's purchase.
All I was and ever do by posting on this board is to try and help people with things I have learned.
If you were looking for a nice WWII war relic, you've got one. But if you were looking for a real Japanese sword, you missed the mark.
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#75454
11/20/2007 08:28 PM
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Hi Hamrad Thanks for reply. I apriciate your input on this sword but I was just looking for a little history. I just wanted a second world war sword and I got one. I knew I ditn`t buy a sword of high "quallity"
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