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Chris:
Fantastic! Thanks for posting. I would really like to see some good high resolution shots of the entire blade. Looks like the Klaas box ricasso type blade stamping. Really cool!
Vic

Wow

This is still one that im missing

After receiving my U-9 (from the Bob Waitts collection) I posted it in the Community Center forum. I'd like to post a picture of the blade and example here, however a few more pictures can be seen in the CC forum.

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Von Ryan

The U-9 Sub.

My German co-author is working very hard to get into the Klaas records and see what we can find out about all of the Klaas pieces, especially the very elusive U9. We will keep you up to date as data emerges, if ever. They have at least acknowledged that some of their production records remain, which is different than the responses I go in the 80's.

I missed this one the first time around also. Great looking pieces. Its a real shame that one of these has been extensively cleaned. I found it especially interesting about the steel scabbard -steel spring one. I have only seen late pot metal hilted Eickhorns with this feature. I wonder if the scabbards were bought from them.

Vic--Are you hinting there will be a new Navy edged weapon book??

Gee, Houston, cleaned never seemed to be an issue with you before. You've always complimented on the beautiful condition of my etched bayonets....

Wayne

A cleaned etched bayonet is a beautiful sight to behold IMO but a Navy dagger with very clean brass-I just don't like them that way-I would rather see them looking a bit dirty and even stained. But -Hey-It's your dagger. Looking forward to seeing all those gleaming bayonets at the SOS.

Houston, I can assure you there will not be another navy book. I will add there is a lot of information to be understood. Hermann and I have a number of projects lined up in Germany after we finish the Auto/Aero/FMK nine issue series in Militaria International. We do have a navy project in mind but down the road. We do appreciate the great support we have gotten on the initial Auto Corps Dagger series. We were thinking it was so technical and so deep in history that no one would read it--we were suprised. It is our intention that this series becomes the standard reference on these historical pieces.

Speaking of navy dagger color, there are a lot of variations through the patterns. I prefer some patina, but never liked them so aged the brass was nearly black. I am not going to parade out a bunch of daggers that I like but here is a near 100% lacquer Alcoso that I always thought had a nice tone.

That's a beauty Vic--but here is a very dark one. I have to agree I would prefer them to be bright but this one has IMO great appeal too--and I would never think of cleaning it.

I certainly agree, I like this fine piece exactly as it is. Houston, you have some of the nicest stuff. It is alway great to see.

I also missed this one...

Although I am not a navy-person I was offered a "U-9" KM, but the blade on this is not maker-marked.

Has anyone else seen any of these without any maker?

Cheers,

No-I never have nor have I ever heard of one. A complete, thorough, hands on examination would be necessary for authentication. The best way would be to have an original also in hand to compare.

Houston,

You can't have it BOTH ways. Either an example is cleaned and looks in wonderfully eye pleasing condition and becomes a highlight of a collection (for a while) or it isn't and looks dull and aged. You can't prefer a "bright" example WITHOUT removing about 70 years of handling "gunk", smoke, dirt and discoloration over discoloration.

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Von Ryan

Vic

Here a few shots of my U-9 for your reference -

maker stamp

sub shot

full length shot

a final one for now -

Always good to see more U9 pics. Are the scabbard liners wooden or metal? How about adding a closeup of the eagle front and crossguard?

Years ago I was considering doing a book on Klaas products. IF you pay attention and look at the different daggers and bayonets produced by Klaas, they are all somewhat different from the other dagger manufacturers. Even the bayonet hilts differ from the standard M98 dress bayonets.
I have always felt that there was enough information, but not the amount of interest to sell a book just on Klaas.
JMO,
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria

That's Nice JONATHAN. Thanks for sharing.

Ron, That's too bad. Klaas is probably the most interesting maker in the 3rd reich. It seem that they went out of their way to produce a product that was a bit different from the rest
of the manufacturers.
-wagner-

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Nice JONATHAN

PVON

Vic

Don't have the dagger to hand apologies, here are a couple of extra shots -

crossguards -

Jonathan---continued good collecting to you!
You have nice stuff!

Thanks Vic, it's good to share

Jonathan