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Cheers Guys i am going to keep the dagger, as stated to many things right for it to be wrong,if i can get to any militaria shows in the NW of England this year i will bring it along to show, I have no idea when the next one is? Just one question though is there anything i can do about the pit marks near the eickhorn logo if i leave it as it is will it get any worse its already pretty bad! or will it stay as it is? I know the dagger is pretty beaten up but there arent alot of these daggers out there and would like to preserve this the best i can Smile
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There is nothing that can be done for the pit marks.It will not get any worse if it is kept in an area of 55% humidity or less and oiled.I would not clean or polish the fittings on any part of the dagger,it helps show just how original the dagger is and that it all came thru time together. You can see how picky and doubtful collectors are,If you try to remove the pits it will just add to it.The grind marks on the dagger are historically correct it was not ground on for no reason.Leave it as it is it is a rare item.


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Thanks for the advise Zorro i will leave it as it is, I understand that cleaning any part of a dagger removes history of the item and an uncleaned item is much more sought after than one that has been cleaned. I just didnt want it to get any worse.Which kind of oil should i use?
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A name brand gun oil.Some people do not like too use oil but I have never had any problems with it. If the humidity is kept below 55% oil is not even needed. No moisture no rust.


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I have just ordered some tipton gun oil off ebay now i presume this will be ok, I think my house is starting to get slightly damp, so better safe than sorry.Thanks for all the advise chaps.
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I think my house is starting to get slightly damp, so better safe than sorry.Regards Adam


Thats LEIGH for Ya Big Grin

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Hey Ian thats Leigh for ya full of pound shops and pregnant teenagers.I will say something though being a Leyther it sure as hell beats being a pie eyter or a cow yedder! Big Grin Im sure you catch my drift.
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Hi Nick I see what your saying about the grind marks these actually go through most of the name part of the dedication they are very light and dont seem to be deep enough to affect the dedication.

Here is a question from way out in left field that pertains to the topic. When cleaning a blade with a motto or inscription, how easy is it to accidentally remove the blackening from these 2 areas. I have had this happen to me one time, and thats all it took! So would not the grinding process do the same even if it passed over it lightly? I am not trashing the dagger,, even though Grumpy has said that "photos seldom represent what you can see in person" But what I wrote is just a thought, what could happen in either process I mentioned. Best Larry


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Hello Larry i think i get what you are saying, From what i remember from the topic here a while ago the mottos and dedications are a certain depth into the blade so in theory by running the dagger over a flat grinding wheel you would have to remove part of the blade before you even got into the inscription.If you look on the 3rd photo down on this page you can see where on the motto the grinder was ran all the way through the motto if you look where the grinder went, you can see the motto slightly lighter where it was just starting to be taken away (the d in land). I think that when the edges of the blade were ground whoever did the grinding, slipped off the wheel and caught the motto slightly but fortunately didnt do enough damage to remove it.
This is all my opinion and if i am wrong someone please correct me as i am no expert and dont claim to be Cool
I hope this makes sense
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There are many ways to grind or clean a dagger. Much of what results is the material(s) used, the pressure applied, the time taken, whether done manually or by machine, the angle of approach, etc. Because of the variables, results may vary widely. Etching may barely be affected or it may be well butchered. If the grinding is done flat to the blade, the etching will rarely be seriously affected, unless the grinding is lengthy and extensive. If there is factory darkening in the etching, it has a good chance of surviving if the grinding is kept flat to the blade and if a limited or half-hearted effort is made.

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