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#65193 11/11/2008 03:55 AM
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Just arrived at the JohnZ household.

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Note that these pictures are Pat's and so was the dagger before it landed in Calgary.

Pat's rejects (this is the second I have received from Pat in the past 6 months) have turned into the best conditioned pieces that I have in my collection.

Merci, Patrice.

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Holy Smoke! Eek
That's a Pat reject? Land Customs are very hard to find in excellent condition...not to mention
Near mint! -What a beauty.
-Congrats John! great score!

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An excellent buy! I had the chance to admire this piece in Pat's collection many times. Nice to see you adding such quality pieces to your collection John. Congrats Smile

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Wow.
Magnifique!!

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Now that is a beautiful condition dagger. It is a delight for the eyes ! Thanks for showing it to us !!

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Thank you John and I'm happy that you like it.

This dagger was bought from Denny Roach 6 years ago and it is the best one that I've ever seen.
In my humble opinion, it would be nearly impossible to upgrade this beauty. Wink

I'm glad that it now belongs to a friend and that it has found a good home in the Great White North.

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Beautiful piece John, I have perhaps not a twin,but certainly a brother!
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WOW! Eek Eek Eek What a beauty congratulations, Pat does have an eye for the best! ~ Ian


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...'tho they lack the quality of other daggers, still an attractive piece...
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#65208 11/11/2008 06:00 PM
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Congrats a lot John and welcome to the "Landcustom" club Wink
Here is mine Eichhorn LC.

LC daggers in minty condition are very hard to find out there.. Cool

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Beautiful daggers you are showing in this thread. Eek


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John, by far, the nicest one of those I've ever seen.

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Thank you, all.

It is beautiful, and best of all, it's an Eickhorn!

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Yep . . . there's certainly a beauty to them! ~ Ian

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#65213 11/12/2008 04:18 AM
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All great looking daggers.Another under valued dagger.For some reason these daggers don't catch on with most collectors I bought mine a number of yrs. ago.It was the first post I asked about on this site.It was about the alum. fitting and how they oxides


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quote:
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All great looking daggers.Another under valued dagger.For some reason these daggers don't catch on with most collectors


Thanks Ed Martin.

I think many new collectors starts with a normal Army / SA or KM daggers in the beginning.
When they have collected some year they will find out the rarity of the LC daggers if they are in NM condition.
These daggers dont `pop up everywhere for sales and many of them are not worth the money because of the bad condition.


In the years too come , my opinons are these Land Customs daggers will rise value a lot in the future.

I could sell my LC many times this year.But i know i will never get hands of the same condition Lc again. Wink

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I must admit that I had never seen so many great LC in one thread. Cool

Their value will certainly do much better than my stock portfolio nowadays. Big Grin

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Very nice.

In an Earlier discussion I posted pictures of mine. So no need to do so again. Mine being the unusual type that does not conform but is genuine.

I have since found out that I am only the second person to own it. The other was the veterans son. It will remain in my drawer for a good few years.....I hope.

These are beauts.

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Nice stuff! This is one of thoes daggers that seem to get overlooked by most collectors.

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Spock, your L.C. is the earliest and coolest L.C. I've seen.

Nothing wrong with these minty aluminum L.C's. Wink
I have a WKC. But your very early ALL Nickel Weyersberg with a plated blade is in a league of it's own. Cool

http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/812094573/m/5910051165

It's only the second one I've seen and the quality is unsurpassed to any other maker IMO.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Serge (aka Wagner):

I have a WKC. But your very early ALL Nickel Weyersberg with a plated blade is in a league of it's own. Cool

I will second that.....just awesome.
Eek

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John,

it is beautiful and rare. AND it is Eickhorn!!! Wink

It is a must for your collection!

Congrats.

Janos

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IMO the Eickhorn version of this dagger is of MUCH nicer quality than the Alcoso. The quality of the daggers castings is by far the best.

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I have only collected for about 1 year,so my question is:What prices are we talking about for a Mint all niccel and a alu/w hanger(Eichorn)?

PS.Beautifull daggers u guys have Cool


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Anywhere between $ 3500 to $ 4000 USD would be fair.

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SmileThanks Pat for a wery fast answer.That is the price for nickel and alu?


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For the aluminum set ! Wink

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OK.Is the alu more worth? or is th all nickel WAY more expensive?


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quote:
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OK.Is the alu more worth? or is th all nickel WAY more expensive?


Carlos,
I'll let Pat answer the price question but I would just like to say the following:
IMO it's not easy to compare a Nickel Customs to an Aluminum one. A nickel example such as Spock's is a scarce find. So scarce that even many years ago the prevelent thought was that a genuine Land Customs would be in Aluminum only and the scabbard fitting accent "lines" would only be on the obverse of the scabbard.
Which companies produced the nickel version, for how long, is still a mystery. But IMO they are scarce and very difficult to find.

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Thanks Serge Smile


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BUT there is not many collectors of the LC daggers?
IF i wanted to sell again,maybe that could be a problem?


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quote:
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BUT there is not many collectors of the LC daggers?
IF i wanted to sell again,maybe that could be a problem?


Carlos,
The only problems I have seen when Land Customs daggers were slow moving was either the condition was not good or the sellers were asking too high a price.
Especially when you can get hangers with them it's a solid investment in a great looking and important dagger in which no "Model Type" collection should be without. Wink

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WKC.

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It loocks that i soon get my self a LC dagger Wink


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Yes they are nice Big Grin

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Hey LH. Smile

What are u showing here?


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An ugly LC dagger Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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OOOOO is it like that the ugly one loocks,then i think i better get a nice one Big Grin


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While John Z.'s is very nice, I prefer the Clemen & Jung with the nickel plated steel fittings on the scabbard (when in top condition), as they contrast the aluminum hilt fittings sooo well on this model.
I have found two of these Clemen & Jung Land Customs over the years that are in this condition.
It would appear that Clemen & Jung was a major supplier of Custom's officials.
JMO,
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SmileA lot of great info guys,thanks.
And thanks for PM Wink

It loocks that a LC is wery near coming into my collection,like in the next few days Smile


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Here is mine. Big Grin
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Looks like an exceptional dagger and hangers.
Closer pics would allow us to better appreciate your dagger. Wink

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I will take other pics,but now i only loock and admire the dagger Wink

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Im glad you like it my friend Carlos Wink
Take good care of this Pure Mint LC Big Grin


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Nice dagger! Yes they are slow movers BUT if the price is right they will sell. I remember Tom Johnson had about 10 all w/ hangers in various conditions....all are sold now.

I will be searching for a minty example at the SOS as I do not have one. IMO condition is the key to any item.

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Here is the pics of my new LC. Smile

THANKS LH600 Big Grin Wink

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They don't get any better.
Nice Christmas gift.

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Hi Carlos.
Nice to see the Landzoll dagger well displayed and you are happy with it Cool

Your search for a LC dagger is now end. You will never find any better around Wink

take care of it my friend

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PAT:Thanks

LH600:The LC is in good hands,again thanks my friend Big Grin Smile


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Killer dagger! IMO Eickhorn, and Clem made the best quality examples. Alsco, Horster castings are quite crude. (not sure if Horster bought their castings)

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Thanks Vader Rader Smile


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Carlos:

Welcome to the LC club!!

Razz Razz

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SmileThanks John

Razz Razz


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Boy, for a slow mover this thread has drawn a lot of attention!
JMO,
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Yes,but here is a lot of nice pics


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Congrats Hans! You now have a Dagger that most of us do not and a pristine example at that. Eek
Now you can start the Search for another SS replacement Wink


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Thanks Scott SmileI am wery pleased with the dagger


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Anybody know where to find some LC stuff,for display? Smile
Have been searching the net,but cant find anything Confused


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here Carlos Smile
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This Land Custom Official’s shoulder board is a fine green wool color base having bullion strands of material on the upper part mixed with green. It looks very similar to the board of an Army lieutenant, except for the mixture of green in the rope-like strands. There is also a gold pip on one end and a beautifully defined Wehrmacht eagle which is in a gilt surface. This eagle has tremendous definition, and the backgrounds of the feathering are muted with the clutched swastika being bright gold, providing great contrast. This shoulder board is a sewn-in type.

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Wery nice shoulderboards Smile

Anybody knowing about other things?? Smile


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Carlos:

There are medals that were given to customs types.

Here is a link to a medal for your information (it has already been sold) on Dan Kelley's site:

https://www.dkelley.net/NSDAP/Zollgrenschutz/Zollgrenschutz_3520.htm

I have seen others on medal web sites. Dan's is a good one, so is e-medals up in Canada.

John


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It's out there you just have to keep looking. You can always e-mail a dealer and let him know what your looking for. I usually find a piece or two at a local show. Still need a dagger though.

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Raymond Smile

you have any "left overs" for me Smile


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Sorry Carlos but I'm still looking for items myself Frown. Here'a a cufftitle http://www.germanwarbooty.com/cloth%20c1293.htm .
Some arm shields http://www.germanwarbooty.com/Metal%20Insignia.htm
Another cufftitle http://www.victorymilitaria.com/inventory/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=204

I'm sure there's more just keep checking all the sites.

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Raymond,

Great looking cabinet, is it a vintage piece? Looks like one of those old dentist's pieces with a lot of shallow drawers.


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Thanks Raymond.
Great pic of ur collection Smile


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Thanks Carlos, I'm sure you'll find some nice condition items to go along with your beautiful dagger.
Billy, the cabinets were made back in the 70's or 80's. I got several of them from two different collectors who were selling them off. I did find an old addvertisment in one of the cabinets. they were from a company called Vector inc. out of Sturgis, MI. I looked on google but there were over 3 million hits with the name Vector and didn't get past a couple of pages before I gave up. I'll send you the phone number if you want to try it. Here's what they look like from the outside. If they arent in business any more I'm sure a local cabinet maker can make them. If you need the measurements let me know. At the time they were $145 for the 10 drawer unit. What's nice is that the top and bottom are removable so you can stack them on top of each other.

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Thanks Raymond Smile


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Raymond,

Thanks for the info, they really look perfect for what I need. Talk about maximizing space!


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Billy G. try an art store and look for an artist draw.They are very much the same.I use one for my small collection.It has 9 drawers and you can fit quite a few daggers etc.


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