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#61524 08/11/2008 06:36 PM
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Around 20 years ago , I bought these Police award document and awards to a Lorenz Geyer in the 8./SS-Polizei Schuetzen Regiment 2. Interesting for me was the fact , that the Cousin of my Mother had served in the 12./SS-Polizei Schuetzen Regiment 1 at the same time . As I understand it , these units served at the Russian front around Leningrad and suffered high losses .

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#61525 08/11/2008 06:37 PM
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..and a close-up.

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#61526 08/11/2008 06:38 PM
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.and lower section .

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#61527 08/11/2008 06:41 PM
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Close up of the Iron Cross 2nd Class that came with the award . Sorry , no hmk on the ring .

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#61528 08/11/2008 06:43 PM
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Here now the 2nd award set to Lorenz Geyer.

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#61529 08/11/2008 06:44 PM
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..and close up of the upper section .

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#61530 08/11/2008 06:46 PM
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..and close up of the lower section . Document is signed by Oberst Freitag .

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#61531 08/11/2008 06:48 PM
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..and close up of the ink cancel .SS has been inked into the cancel by hand .

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#61532 08/11/2008 06:53 PM
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Here now the awarded 'Silber Infanterie- Sturmabzeichen' that came with the document. It is a silvered and frosted type ;-- not much left of the frosted finish .

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#61533 08/11/2008 06:55 PM
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..and the backside , a semi-hollowed back .Sorry, no hmk again .

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#61534 08/11/2008 06:59 PM
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When I looked at the back a little closer , I found that Lorenz had inscribed it with a sharp needle .
This side reads :" SS Pol. DIV. 8 Komp."

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#61535 08/11/2008 07:01 PM
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..and the other side reads :
" Gegen Leningr.Ostfront "

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#61536 08/11/2008 07:05 PM
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One more piece of paper came with this group ; a SS-leave pass . Someone told me this was for training school near Prague, Czechoslovakia .

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#61537 08/11/2008 07:12 PM
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Now some award documents and awards to my Dad : Oberltn.Heinz Ostermann who served with the Volunteer Police Bataillon 8 Croatia .
First his War Service Cross with Swords 2nd Class award.

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#61538 08/11/2008 07:14 PM
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...and close-up of the upper section of his document .

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#61539 08/11/2008 07:16 PM
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..and the lower section . The document was signed by Police General Kammenhofer .

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#61540 08/11/2008 07:19 PM
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.and the awarded cross on his dress medal bar .

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#61541 08/11/2008 07:26 PM
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The 2nd award document to my Dad was for the Croatian Bravery medal in 'Bronze'.
I have xerox copies of photos of the award ceremony at the castle in Nice, Croatia.They show some Croatian Generals and what I pressume was Police General Kammenhofer.

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#61542 08/11/2008 07:31 PM
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..and again the upper section of the document . By-the-way , Joe Wotka has a similar document to an EM -Policeman from the same unit my Dad was an officer of.

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#61543 08/11/2008 07:32 PM
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Sorry , here the document .

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#61544 08/11/2008 07:34 PM
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..and the lower section again . Again signed by Police General Kammenhofer .

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#61545 08/11/2008 07:36 PM
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..and again the award on Dad's dress medal bar .

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#61546 08/11/2008 07:47 PM
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Now his award for the Iron Cross 2nd class , which I had to 'recreate' , since the origonal , given to him by General Pannwitz in person , was destroyed by him there in Croatia at surrender time to Tito's partisans along with his Dienstpass with the SS-runes on the front .Anything like that document ( the 2 other ones and the medals he had sent home ) and anything showing the SS-runes were not a good thing to keep at that time !.

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#61547 08/11/2008 07:51 PM
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Here his dress medal bar again .
Now I like to invite others to show their POLICE award documents and fitting medals !

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#61548 08/11/2008 09:38 PM
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Bernd, great documents and medals. Thanks for showing them. Do you have any photos of your dad in uniform that you can show? I ****s he couldn't keep the Dienstpass or other documents but, under the circumstances completely understandable.

#61549 08/12/2008 01:17 PM
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Bernd, A Wonderful & Historically Significant Display. It's great that your family was able to preserve a number of his awards, decoration and the uniform! Living history.... Dave/dblmed


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#61550 08/12/2008 09:16 PM
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Raymond : I had posted about my Dad with photos on this forum under : " Oblt. Heinz Ostermann " , --but can't find it anywhere !!
Dave : Thanks for your kind remarks .
Here now a award document for the gilt Police long service medal .

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#61551 08/12/2008 09:17 PM
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..close-up upper section.

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#61552 08/12/2008 09:18 PM
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..and lower section.

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#61553 08/12/2008 09:19 PM
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Close-up of the embossed eagle .

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#61554 08/12/2008 09:21 PM
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..and close-up of a certain person's signature .

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#61555 08/12/2008 09:23 PM
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The awarded medal.

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#61556 08/12/2008 09:28 PM
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Award Document for the German Annexation of Czechoslovakia . dated 1.OKTOBER 1939.

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#61557 08/12/2008 09:29 PM
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..and upper part of the document.

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#61558 08/12/2008 09:31 PM
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..and the lower section again .

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#61559 08/12/2008 09:32 PM
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Nice embossed seal .

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And a nice embossed seal .

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#61561 08/12/2008 09:49 PM
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.and signature of " Theissner"

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#61562 08/12/2008 09:51 PM
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..and here the awarded medal again .

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#61563 08/12/2008 09:58 PM
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Award document for the "Deutsche Volkspflege Medaille " ; medal for Social Welfare service. don't know how a policeman would have qualified for this .

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