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There just is not stopping some people.
http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-German-Elite-Korp-Officers-Swo...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This guy lifted the photos off my site without permission and is now selling this item!!
Just so you guys know who the seller is id is mike125600

The item is not his.
Item number: 160167405558

A tool for sure.

Just read the fairy tale that goes along with it!! Have you notified Ebay Paul?
Jim

No, Maybe I should bid $100000 and let him pay the fees :>

Paul

More profit selling someone else's stuff!

Nail him!

PVON

Paul and others,

You probably have a "studio" set up for photography. Why not incorporate your name or logo into the background ? Then anything you photgraph has an ID that people can spot.

Dave

Ha Dave, I do and I have, for the past several months.
Had a boss that once said, "The trouble with making things idiot-proof is that they keep making smarter idiots!"

Paul, Good one.

I have advised folks who shoot pictures reasonably often to make up their own distinctive backgrond upon which to shoot pictures. Including a name or logo. It tends to slow down the theft, and cannot be reoved like those signature applied to digital images after the fact.

Dave

I am sure this is not the first time a thief has played this game. Dave thanks for the tip!

Definately better than nothing but watermarking across the detailed areas of the dagger itself provides greater protection than an easily removed background. This lovely RZM example lifted from Pauls site shows how easy it was to replicate a new background along with convincing shadows and all done in under 5 minutes, it has been re-watermarked so that the RZM mark is covered.
Virtually impossible to alter without obvious tampering to TM.
Paul.....sorry for using another, just trying to make a point.

Here is reply to question I asked on why he is showing a sword not owned by him!

Just got reply!

PVON


Dear ibuywwii,

PART 1-I had that sword listed before and it did not sell so if it was on a site before the max show it is possible, also if I wanted to rip folks off I would have done it with my reputation not on the line in short I would have put myself on ebay as a new seller if you look at when I joined ebay I have been here awhile and granted there are folks with a lot more sales than I but I enjoy my 100% rep and I earned my 303 plus all the double sales that didn't count. any more I cant say than that, but so I wont be misunderstood and this is also on the lisitng
"Last night I went back into the site and listed some more pictures and added a very lengthy summary of what was what. I also mentioned that although I tried a whole bunch of times to remove some of the pictures ebay's new picture system wouldn't let me, it would let me add some new ones, but it wouldn't let me remove any of the old ones. I did think about pulling the listing since I had about 2oo offers off line for it, but I


- mike125600

next email

part 3 The only reason its not being listed as an original is because during the war all repeal SS Swords were given a specific number and then entered onto a special list and then assigned to a deserving Officer at the behest of Himmler and Himmler alone, this sword has no-markings what so ever not one, so it was never listed does it make it any less real, in my opinion nope, however value wise it does, if you consider it value wise then it would have to be considered along repro lines according to what I have read, but that because since it can not be traced to a particular SS Officer, and nor was it ever entered in to the SS LOGS. But since an average Traceable Sword in good to excellent conditions start at TEN THOUSAND dollars and up, well this is something that a collector or investor will have to consider for themselves.


- mike125600

part 4 I have kept one for my self, Please feel free to pull your bid if your not happy, That's why I didn't list it as original I listed it by what it is an assembled for Foundry and or Factory parts after the war but It did not see service with the SS. So all the nare-do-wells, and experts can do as they please its a shame I cant show all the emails I have recieved with off line offers probably by the same folks that are runnig off at the mouth Personally I do not give a damn if it sells or not, at this point, I am not hard up for the money,my email is [email protected] if you want to email me further.

part 2

sorry just got it
part 2 I did think about pulling the listing since I had about 2oo offers off line for it, but I am not that way, so I wrote on there that my camera was messing up and I accidentally chopped or cut or whatever the right computer word is some pictures of the sword that I am keeping for myself. with regards to the SS Sword, it was put together from parts found in an abandoned and derelict foundry and or factory at the end of WWII It was found by some soldiers of the 3rd Inf Div. somewhere above Wurzburg Germany, exactly where i cant tell you the gentleman is now 78 years old and he does not remember. in the description it explains what they did with a lot of the items they found, I know its a lengthy read but it will have the answers for all the questions you asked of me.


- mike125600

another note from him

You may now him well and that's all well and fine believe what you will I have no reason to yank your chain, I do not know you or him at all, maybe there is a similarity I do not know I am not selling his sword and nor is he selling mine, His is make marked but what I just looked at and in mint shape from what I could see, and his is worth far more than mine, so what ever if you have doubts do not bid, and if everyone wants to pull there bid its all well and fine by me. I am not a big time seller with a store that is dependant on the income from it, I am just a person who every now and then will sell something, which is why I am proud of my reputation, and no-one has ever been ripped by me, check for your self. NOT ONE PERSON!!!!!

Degans, I am amazed that you did that in so short a time. The whole reason I put that background together is cause this same thing happened to me last year. Another guy stole my pics and description and sold the item on Ebay. It's scary, shoot people could pull pics from here or anywhere...
Wonder how many non-forum guys are emailing him with offers....
What bothers me is this is exacty how newbies get turned off the hobby.
Lastly I know exactly where this sword is and it is not in Blanchard Oklahoma. It's in another country!

Couldnt help but play with the pic that Degens watermarked,, Five minutes with a very basic 4 year old photo editing program and I removed most of the mark. Not good enough to fool someone that realy knows what they are looking at, but It would fool alot of ebay people.

Not realy sure we can ever stop a scammer!

This is why I advise making a background with your name or logo and also a paper or fabric thin tape or ribbon to lay across the blade. Added digital marks can be removed ... as is seen above.

Dave

Yup seems no matter how smart we get the bad guys just keep pace. The other thing that sure helps is a community of collectors who help and supports each other. I bet the guy(s) who bought this off auction are not part of this community...

I should have initially posted Pauls original but like Eric says if somebody has the inclination and a half decent paint program anything is possible.