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#58211 12/07/2006 08:39 PM
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J HOLLAND, Bamberg Deutschland Nov 4 1919 KING OF THE SHOOTERS.I have no documents to prove it,but Heer Bamberg looks like he may have been a fair shot. Wink

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#58213 12/07/2006 09:15 PM
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Zorro, beautiful award, that guy sure knew how to shoot,I think maybe Bamberg was the town and J Holland his name.

Thanks for posting such a beautiful item.

Gary

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These old pictures are great. What a shot he must have been. With the name, location, date and award, you might be able to trace him.

He looks like a kind, understanding type of fellow who had a lot of tollerance (sp?) for diverse points of view. Big GrinBig Grin

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I wonder if he was in WWI and what his job was.


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#58216 12/08/2006 01:53 AM
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Zorro,

If the German Army was anything like most armies, he probably showed up and a said he blow the wings off a horsefly at 500 meters.

They then assigned him as a cook's mate or perhaps a horsheshoe checker in the Prussian Vet Corps.

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A search on Ancestry.com has found a possible match although I cannot confirm as I do not have complete access to all European records.

Johann Baptist Holland (1875-1948) last of Bamberg, Bayern, Deutschland.

Military record: Bavaria, Germany, World War I Personnel Rosters, 1914-1918
Soldier, veteran & prisoner rolls & lists,
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Johann Baptist Holland
Bamberg, Bayern

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zorro,

I believe this target was one of his awards given to him for winning and since he won the event that year, the chain was passed to him from the previous Konig. He was the Schutzen Konig for one year until the next event and if he didn't win the chain would pass to the next Schutzen Konig. All the Schutzen Konigs would have their name engraved on a plaque and attached to the chain. A very big deal in a clubs history. If for sell let me know. Best!

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Yes I am sure you are right, that is the way it was. A very big deal, then, and now. But now, the big deal is, how much money does one have to spend on stuff.
The more you spend and have, the bigger deal you are. Kind of sad, but true.
That award is very impressive.


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