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This painting comes from a vets family. I am not interested but told them i would try and find any info on it. Anyone out there have an idea on value or artist? Sorry about the pics they were sent to me. thanks

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The painting shows the ' Fedherrnhalle' in my hometown of Munich . Since the local police stopped the march of the Nazi's putsch in Nov. 1923 here with bullets that killed ,as I think ,13 of them and wouded Goering , who from that day on was taking drugs .Anyhow , later the Nazi's made it into their shrine with an honor guard there . There is an other painting of a swearing-in ceremony in front of this monument at night with torches and many flags ,etc .
As paintings go , I would judge this very average and only the date of 1936 makes it interesting . Condition seems ok , but I think a cleaning might bring out the colors . You need to give the size , as to give it a value .

Sorry , it is 'Feldherrnhalle '

Very cool as you can see from my Avatar. This would look great in my den. As to value it would be hard to say.

Legion,

Hope you'll let us know any additional information you might find out about this neat painting? We're interested, too ...

I've seen a few oil paintings of the Feldherrnhalle over the the years, many just like this one, which Bernd called spot-on,
as being of "average quality." That is not to depreceate the attempt, merely to categorize the quality of the artist's ability. I couldn't paint anything near that good, heh. I hate it when they say Hitler was simply a mediocre, so-so artist, only to play him down. Believe me when I say I'm not a big Hitler promoter, but the guy could draw with a good degree of accuracy - read some of Speer's comments if you don't believe me. So the guy wasn't a Leonardo da Vinci, but he wasn't terrible, either.

It must have been a popular subject to artists of that period, one of the NS/SS shrines, yes?

Thanks for letting us have a look at your find and wishing you well,

Bill

Nice painting.

But in 1934 the memorial of the 9. november 1923 was build.

Why is it on the painting missing. It was so important that it should be there for an original painting of that time.

I would be careful of the signature and the date.

regards

The memorial was on the left side ( facing the FHH), facing outward, and looks to be obscured by the front column in the view shown.

I think it is a very cool painting. But I would still be cautious.

Ivanhoe,

I'm pretty sure the Feldherrnhalle was built by Friederich Gärtner during the years 1841-1844,
for Ludwig I..?

Are you quite sure it was built in 1934? Maybe I was snoozing in history class on that day?

Best!

Bill

Hi Bill,

sure you are right. The feldherrnhalle was built 1841 -1844.

I talked about the memorial of the 9 th november 1923. It was placed on the left side behind columm.

On a Photo dated 1935 it would be visible. On a paiting it belongs to the artist individual vision.

For me is the existence of this memorial on a painting the best argument for a original third reich painting.

best regards

This is the Mahnmal in question.

The lady who owns this painting is from Germany and is in her late 70's. She married a US serviceman in the 50's and brought this painting back that her aunt gave her as a wedding present that is all i know about it. Is it at all (and i know i am going out on a limb) that the artist didnt see eye to eye with the Nazi party. If i recall alot of artists were restricted to art that portrayed country life, aryan race, political agenda..etc.etc. Maybe a small handful of artists resented the party? I just find it strange that just cause the memorial is not there it is deemed as not period since we dont know the artist or his agenda? Who knows why artists do what they do but then again i cant even draw stick figures

I like the painting and feel it's period.

I have no doubt that it is a period painting. I do not recognize the artists mark. It would also be considered the realistic style promoted by the Nazi government. Today the painting does not have a lot of value simply because it is considered Nazi art. The subject matter is lifeless using a 1 point perspective with the building being centered in the image. It shows no imagination and creates no inspiration. The colors used are dull and boring. I assume it was painted to glorify the birth of the Nazi struggle. It is much like Hitlers so called art. No People. The artist should have taken a photograph. The piece is a waste of paint and canvas.
By the way. Hitler was a hack when it came to art. A camera does the same thing that Hitler drew and painted with the exception that he could not portray people. A large majority of official Nazi art resides in a salt mine in Utah. It was confiscated by the military after the war to include the art from Hitlers museum in Munchen. The large lifelike female sculpture was said to be Eva Braun with a different face. Anyway the majority of the Nazi art sits in a salt mine. The Germans do not want it.
Now how do I know this. My great uncle William Beekman was a captain in the Army and was assigned to the 101st division after wars end, his job being to assist in the cataloging and crating and transportation of the Nazi art to Utah where it still stored today.

Great painting.... have to chime in as well, much better than anything I could do, and the feel is definately of the period, not everyone was thrilled with the Nazis and the "rededication' of certain monuments.
Would be interested if it ever comes up for sale...

Thanks for posting it