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When you look in Wayne's great book, German Etched Dress Bayonets, you will find several versions of the infantry etch produced by E Pack and called by them pattern No 6.
I will show you pictures of my latest Pack No 6 with a couple of unique features.
First, the obverse:
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#46165
07/27/2009 10:14 PM
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07/27/2009 10:15 PM
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07/27/2009 10:16 PM
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The Reverse Etch (a unique feature of this bayonet.. you will see this on pages 65 and 146 bottom)... dedicated to Kurt Jung of the 61st Infantry Regiment and dated 1938.
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#46168
07/27/2009 10:18 PM
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The details of the obverse etch.. the soldier and the large oak leaves.
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#46170
07/27/2009 10:19 PM
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And, the unique front book end on this presented and special ordered bayonet.
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#46171
07/27/2009 10:20 PM
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Two pictures of the hilt:
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#46172
07/27/2009 10:20 PM
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Hilt 2.
I will pause for a few minutes to let the system rest so that I can post some interesting variations on the No 6 etch.
John
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#46173
07/27/2009 10:30 PM
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Here are three different versions of the No 6 etch.
The top one is the above pictured presented bayonet, with oak leaves by soldier's feet and with what I call a double scalloped bookend (pages 65 & 146 bottom).
The middle bayonet is double etched, stag gripped bayo with oak leaves and with what I call the straight edged bookend (page 146 top).
The bottom bayonet is the one found in the catalog and has no oak leaves and has a single scalloped bookend (page 144).
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07/27/2009 10:31 PM
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Here is the soldier with no oak leaves (bottom bayonet):
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07/27/2009 10:32 PM
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The middle bayonet sees the soldier with oak leaves at his feet:
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07/27/2009 10:33 PM
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And this one is from the presented bayo with the same oak leaves at the soldier's feet:
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07/27/2009 10:35 PM
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The no oak leaf version of the bayonet has the bookend seen in the catalog and on page 144.. curved bookend with a single scallop in the curve:
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07/27/2009 10:36 PM
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The middle bayonet has oak leaves and has the straight edged bookend seen at the top of page 146:
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07/27/2009 10:36 PM
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Oops, let's try the straight edged bookend instead...
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07/27/2009 10:38 PM
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And the top bayonet has the oak leaves and a double scalloped bookend, similar to the one at the bottom, but with two rounded scallops, instead of the one:
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07/27/2009 10:41 PM
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On page 145, you can see a fourth variation of this No 6 etch.. oak leaves at the feet and a single scalloped bookend that is identical to the one found on the no oak leaf version.
Very interesting, wouldn't you think?
I wonder if it is possible to find the straight edged bookend on the no oak version?
If anyone out there has the version on page 145 or any other version of the No 6, I would love to see pictures posted here.
John
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#46182
07/28/2009 12:20 AM
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John Mine seems to have an extra acorn
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#46183
07/28/2009 02:34 AM
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John,
Beautiful piece & an interesting addition to your wall! The gilted lettering is really a super sight to behold. Also, an excellent reference on Pack pattern #6 Infantry variations.
6.JPG (88.66 KB, 294 downloads)
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#46184
07/28/2009 02:55 AM
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Thanks, guys. Terry, don't just show us your nuts, show the whole thing, all 8 1/2 inches of it. John
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#46185
07/28/2009 05:00 AM
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John, I assume that your blade is natural finished and not plated. Makes me wonder if these named, unit designated Pack pieces were special and left natural? Also, you might point out to Wayne the date on the blade and the Pack style TM. As I remember, Wayne thought these were all war time manufactured instead of early as I always claimed. Ron Weinand
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07/28/2009 02:55 PM
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Ron:
The TM on this presented etch differs from the other two. Here is this one:
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07/28/2009 02:56 PM
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Here is the one from the presented Panzer Oval:
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07/28/2009 02:57 PM
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And the one form the Oval C31:
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07/28/2009 03:33 PM
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Here is the mark on the no oak No 6
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07/28/2009 03:34 PM
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And the one from the Oak leaf straight edged bookend:
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#46191
07/28/2009 10:23 PM
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John
Thanks for posting all the nice photos. Its great to see what I can't aford. I love the side by side comparisons. John, you do realize that there is no end to this maddnes.
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07/28/2009 11:15 PM
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To Ron, It would be correct to say that you remember INCORRECTLY...The version of Pack etch we were discussing were the OVAL series! MOST of the OVAL series had the large Sigfried Waffen trademark, SOME had the smaller Pack trademark. The type of Pack trademark itself does not automatically tell the viewer what years the etch was produced as Pack seems to have used many trademarks throughout the Third Reich period. It's not like Eickhorn who used a certain trademark for a couple of years then went to another.
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07/28/2009 11:16 PM
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07/29/2009 05:43 AM
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Wayne, I am not remembering incorrectly. My contention was that the natural finished blades were special ordered and, oval or not, were not availabe during the war regardless of which TM was used. It is obvious that Pack used different TMs during the TR and this can be easily seen in the ones they used on the HJ Knives. I am still convinced that these unit marked and named pieces were pre war as is seen in this 1938 dated piece shown by John Z.
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07/30/2009 03:16 AM
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Very nice bayonets!! My overall sense of the scheme of things is that the unit marked blades, and special order examples were prewar also. As Germany began its mobilization process units were created, shuffled around, renamed etc. Service terms were extended, reserves called up etc. etc. The certainty of a fixed term of service, and with a specific unit, was not a realistic expectation for the average soldier. By September 1, 1939 when the actual shooting war began it only accelerated the process. With by early 1942, Solingen blade makers terminating series production of even the oftentimes lesser quality actual wartime period dress bayonets. FP
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#46196
07/30/2009 10:04 PM
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Great Bajo`s u have my friend
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01/14/2010 03:16 PM
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My last purchase of 2009, but the first to arrive in 2010 is a long Pioniere hilted No 6 Infantry etch, with a reverse dedication.
Here it is, and thank you BillyG for this one.
Obverse
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01/14/2010 03:16 PM
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Reverse:
Note that it is the no oak version of the No 6 etch.
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01/14/2010 03:17 PM
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01/14/2010 03:18 PM
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The etch, reverse. Dedication to an artillery regiment... not very often found.
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01/14/2010 03:18 PM
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The TM
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01/14/2010 03:19 PM
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Detail of the No 6 Infantry Man.
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#46203
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On thing is for sure, they sure are good looking. The picture with the comparison of the three etches is my favorite. It shows a different border at the tip in all cases. I'm, at this stage, not focused (or frankly, much interested) in dress bayos, but I like these pieces.
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