#37604
08/02/2009 09:44 PM
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This dagger was taken as a trophy to Russland in 1945.What can you say about it.Is it good for my collection?
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#37605
08/02/2009 09:46 PM
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08/02/2009 09:54 PM
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#37608
08/02/2009 09:56 PM
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From the photos posted, it looks authentic, but the condition is rough, which diminishes the collectibility and the value. Photos of the blade and closeups of the chain would help.
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#37609
08/02/2009 09:56 PM
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08/02/2009 09:57 PM
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08/02/2009 09:58 PM
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08/02/2009 10:00 PM
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08/02/2009 10:01 PM
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08/02/2009 10:02 PM
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08/02/2009 10:02 PM
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08/02/2009 10:04 PM
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Bad condition-it's true.But main question is it all original?
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08/02/2009 10:05 PM
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08/02/2009 10:06 PM
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08/02/2009 10:07 PM
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08/02/2009 10:09 PM
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crossguards made of steel with nickel-plated......is it possible?
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08/02/2009 10:10 PM
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#37622
08/03/2009 01:18 AM
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Did I miss the maker? 
In Memory of Joe Mann
Medal of Honor Recipient
July 8, 1922 �
September 19, 1944
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#37623
08/03/2009 01:38 AM
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Well,it's an authentic "Type I" dagger. I only know of one dagger maker that made iron/steel guards(Helbig)and I'm unaware they ever made M36 daggers. The M36's, as issued, carry no maker marks, as a rule, so it's possible, at the very least, that Helbig guards were used on yours. I personally have never seen or heard of an M36 with these guards, but that means nothing. Looks like it may be a rare variation of sorts.
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#37624
08/03/2009 11:17 AM
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This tang marking is often seeing on Jacobs daggers with exclamation point.
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#37625
08/03/2009 05:45 PM
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#37626
08/03/2009 06:34 PM
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quote: Originally posted by tobau:
This tang marking is often seeing on Jacobs daggers with exclamation point.
I've seen it on an M7/29 also. One year ago. Gerd
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#37627
08/03/2009 06:53 PM
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quote: Originally posted by lakesidetrader:
Original late example
Sorry, but I want to figure out your opinion - Late production of Type I? In other words - the late type of the initial line? Have anybody seen or heard the M36 crossguards made of steel or aluminium?
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#37628
08/03/2009 07:29 PM
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quote: Originally posted by kreta1961: quote: Originally posted by tobau:
This tang marking is often seeing on Jacobs daggers with exclamation point.
I've seen it on an M7/29 also. One year ago. Gerd
...And NPEA blade tangs by Horster
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#37629
08/04/2009 06:49 PM
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RedsunofRussia, if you are interested, there is a set of iron-based crossguards on eBay for sale by a reputable seller. They may or may not fit your dagger, but you may wish to check them out under "German dagger."
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#37630
08/19/2009 02:40 PM
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Steel crossguards like those are typical to Helbig daggers.
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