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#364166 12/23/2024 02:52 PM
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Was the association between Aug Luneburg and WKC still in effect during the 3rd Reich period for their Navy daggers and for how long, I've seen a number of imperial pieces with blades marked with Aug Luneberg and WKC but not anything with both these companies during the later 3rd Reich period until today that is. This piece has a sailing ship etch blade which unfortunately has suffered somewhat, the scabbard is a chased example in the style of Luneburg, if you check their Imperial catalouge this one is No 335 but with the updated position of the scabbard mounts, the pommel is the replacement type which suggests this piece started out as a so called 1st model probably from the mid 1930's as the WKC mark is certainly not an early example. The grip is Ivory and the knot is of the later 3rd reich type as are all the fittings which all have a matching patina with most of the gilt still in the scabbard decoration and on the fittings of the dagger.

Gary

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Baz69 #364169 12/23/2024 08:53 PM
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That's a BUEAT.

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Gary, as ever simply stunning


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Baz69 #364173 12/24/2024 11:19 AM
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Thanks guy's, here's a few more shots, unfortunately the blade has suffered a bit. If there's anybody out there that knows about Luneburg's collaboration with WKC during this period I'd like to hear about it.

Gary

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Baz69 #364175 12/24/2024 12:46 PM
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Gary, this is a wonderful dagger! Interestingly this scabbard is a clear one looker. I have seen a few with similar type engraving and I would not trust all these others. The one you have has a tasteful quality which is HIGH above those questionable ones! A pleasure to see. And a strong sign that real, period quality beats faker´s "quality" easily. The blade shows some age but it is what it is and the dagger overall is a very special item. Not to forget the nice ivory grip! Congratulations to your find.
Merry Christmas!
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Beautiful dagger! Congratulations on finding such an exceptional piece!


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Baz69 #364307 01/02/2025 11:05 PM
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Beautiful, early production Kriegsmarine dagger!

And a great addition to any collection!


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Baz69 #364314 01/03/2025 11:03 AM
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Thanks for all the comments, still looking for information if there is any of the collaboration of Luneburg and WKC, maybe a 1930's catalouge.

There were a few WKC marks used during the Reichsmarine and Kreigsmarine periods where would you put this mark, I was thinking early 1930's and am I right in thinking this was once a so called 1st model or 1929 model if you prefer.

Gary

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Excellent! That scabbard.. beautiful! Best, Kevin.


It's ALL in the DETAILS!!.......
Baz69 #364557 01/24/2025 06:16 PM
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I take the engraving at the top of the scabbard to be a Naval knot. Is it the start of one of the variants of a figure eight knot?

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Joe

I think your right, I have always looked at the August Luneburg scabbard designs and on some they have a distinctive design above the upper scabbard band this knot design being one of them, studying these designs makes it easier to spot a Luneburg scabbard over a WKC one quite easily.

Gary

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Baz69 #364570 01/26/2025 01:39 AM
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They are all Eickhorn patterns Gary smile

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James

Are you saying that all the scabbard designs that are listed in the Aug Luneburg catalouge are only Eickhorn patterns?

Gary

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Aug. Lüneburg Waffenhaus, Kiel und Flensburg was a distributor, not an edged weapon maker.


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Hi Vern

Yes I understand that Aug Luneberg was a retailer or distributor, i was more wondering if all the scabbard designs in the catalouge were only Eickhorn products or were some of them made by WKC who Aug Luneberg also bought from. If they were all Eickhorn designs I wonder if there was a seperate Aug Luneberg catalouge showing the WKC designs as well, I haven't seen one but that doesn't mean there isn't one.

Gary

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Very true wink


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Baz69 #364577 01/27/2025 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Baz69
James

Are you saying that all the scabbard designs that are listed in the Aug Luneburg catalouge are only Eickhorn patterns?

Gary
Yes 100% all Eickhorn designs..

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James

Thank you for the conformation, anytime I learn something I'm greatful. I can only imagine that either the Eickhorn patent on this design ran out and WKC copied the design later during the 3rd reich period or Eickhorn didn't protect their designs with a patent during the Imperial period at all.

Gary


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