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I will post more pics when the light will be better…

Simone, can I suggest that you please start a new thread for this? The current thread is on reproduction SSHRs. It’s better if we can stay on-topic. Thanks.
Stephen

P.s. There’s another recent post on fantasy anti-partisan rings. Here’s a link:
https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=360371#Post360371

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Ok thanks!

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Here the confrontation between the previous “more blackened” rings and the new “more shiny” rings

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And here with Evgeniy ring

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The HR at bottom is a great copy of an original.... For a wearer it doesn't really matter that much..You could wear the die pressed or the cast..

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copy of 44 year with cibic of zirconia

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* Nice work Evgeniy! . The stones are set in very good.. Looks great!

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As many here know, I made a copy of Sepp Dietrich's ring (from photographs). The model of the ring from 1937, which I also produce, was taken as the basis.
I took the ring and repeated all the details of the ring, including the smallest ones.
I also copied the skull, I showed them here earlier - a comparison of what I received (a copy of Sepp Dietrich's ring) and photographs of the original ring.
But then I received a photo from the new owner (I was familiar with the new owner of this mega rarity) - 3 photos and one angle was very good, so as to make minor changes to my skull model, and now I’m showing a comparison of the new edition of the skull, from Dietrich’s ring .
I want to clarify that it is against my rules to make copies from a photo, but this ring will never be in my hands for copying, so I made a copy from a photo (there were good angles of this ring)))

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Still life of two copies of Sepp Dietrich's ring of different sizes and a copy of '44.
In this example, the dependence of the length of the leaves on the marking of the htv is clearly visible. The smaller the size, the more leaves are cut off near the triangles, so the size of the ring is formed.

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E. , Nice work as usual !

Yes sometimes you can tell size quickly just by looking at the oak leaf's. The closer to the skull they are the smaller the ring. Your 'stack' of rings shows it very good from top smallest to bottom is biggest.. Thanks for showing us your new batch. Keep up the good work.., ,G.

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Thx you Gaspare!
I can explain may be someone will be interesting, from top to down - size 9, size 11,5 and a big ring 12,5

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my type 36

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Comparison of the appearance of the ring type 38 (on the left) and the ring type 40(on the right side), you can see how the early rings differed from the rings of the late type.
Size 19.2mm diamter or size 9.5 us.
The length of the leaves on the sides of the skull depends on the size of the ring, the larger the ring, the larger the leaves, the length of the ring is formed by cutting both on the original rings and on my replicas. I produce rings using the same technology as the Otto Gahr jewelry workshop, injection molding, with soldering of the skull in place of the connecting seam.
I just don't do manual finishing of the leaf contours as they did on the early rings and I don't cut the veins in the leaves of the 40s rings, I solved this problem easier than the guys from Otto Gahr
So the early rings were flatter, and the rings of the 40s were more barrel-shaped and barely noticeably thicker.
I also want to clarify that the division into types of my copies is my personal convention, for the convenience of ordering. 🙂
There were only 3 types of rings - early from 33 to 38, transition rings - 39 and late from 40 to 44.

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and next some views

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- Yes you got them down perfectly...

I have always liked the early type pattern. For me it was easier to say if authentic..

At the big shows I barely look at them. I'll take a count of what I think are real for the members but wouldn't attempt to authenticate them.. I think some of your rings in the future with proper ageing, wear etc. it will be very hard to authenticate them!

I would say as of now you make the best replica HR money can buy!!

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ww2 german skull

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Those are beauties, Evgeniy. As always.

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E,

You sure can make them, best anywhere and you sure can find them as well.

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wax model of what is cast silver blank skull from type 37.
The same was done by Otto Gahr's workshop

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- E. , Those Pig nose skulls look better than the originals!!

So is the color of the wax the different hardness?

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my friend, I try not to add anything to my reconstructions, I am for purity and 100% authenticity.
Wax does not differ in hardness, I tried to break these models, they are more likely to wrinkle than break, that is, it is a plastic material, it is important that it burns out completely when pouring metal - that's all you need.
And yes, if you all know, those guys from the Otto Gar company, corrected not only the final product (ring), but they also corrected wax models .... ha ha, my tongue is my enemy. I could write a book))
I know a lot of things that they did, I learned everything from my experience of casting rings, because Otto Garra also cast - die casting...
I don't want to brag, I'm just the person who repeated all the technological processes of their production, only removed the manual finishing of the rings, I fixed it and my replicas do not need manual finishing. I brought everything to the absolute. Don't laugh at my arrogance, these are just my statements, supported by my pedantry to my work...

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Here I have seen wax you can buy and depending on the color is the hardness.. Some very brittle, some very soft.. But they might be used for something else, sculpting,,models [?]


**** Evgeniy,,your statements are backed up by your work.! . And as of lately your Honor rings are the best on the market.!

A question based on your statement: " but they also corrected wax models" - Wasn't there the chance to fix their wax model on the 2nd type? The famous 'Die flaw' on the left side bottom Sig Rune triangle' as Don used to call it....

Why do they all have it?. Couldn't it be repaired before the next step?

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Hello Gaspare!

The question about this recess is a good one, I can only give my opinion, they simply did not attach importance to such trifles.
We are now accustomed to symmetry and ideal proportions in the era of computers.
This recess and other minor flaws for such a small size of the product are not noticeable, they do not spoil the appearance of the ring, so they did not do anything, they left it as is.
One master model was cut out, and from it they made a rubber mold and cast wax models. Therefore, these "defects" are on all rings from the 40s.

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Great post Evgeniy , So die casting is very far away from the 2 molds shown here.! [ Die casting here sometimes called 'permanent mold'].

So that explains why the die flaw is on all the 2nd pattern HRs..

Well I appreciate it that you have a pretty big investment in time and with the equipment, and probably contract a firm to get them done [?] But I bet the buyers of your ring appreciate it more! smile The rings are beauties!

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my copy of germans skull ring ww2 time, for comparison show copy and original

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Thats a good copy of the 'pig nose' skull.... The sides/band had a lot of decoration.....


Your Dutch Wolfsangel ring looks really good too.........

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Soon will show other my copy....

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