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A recent addition to my treasure chest. This imperial Russian ring is pre-1918 (pre-revolution). The skull is hollow and is soldered to the band The shank has a Russian '84' silver mark on the outside of the shank. After 1798, ’84’ was the minimum legal silver standard in Russia and denotes a silver content of 875.
I wonder if such old Russian rings gave German silversmiths the idea of the skull and snake patterns that we are more familiar with. Very pleased with this little beauty.
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Stephen, an interesting ring. I've never seen it before !
Thanks for showing .
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Hey Stephen,
Interesting ring! Never seen one. The end of the snake tail looks like a sickle lol.
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Hey Stephen,
Interesting ring! Never seen one. The end of the snake tail looks like a sickle lol. Ha ha! Well spotted Mike. I believe that's an ironic coincidence...
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Stephen,
Hahaha, I think so as well.
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Found one of mine.. Not sure the box is matching but thats how I got it... its not exactly like yours... Have another like the one you show somewhere,,, and the ad is here somewhere too: https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubb...sian+hallmark&Search=true#Post330265
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Great information, thanks Gaspare. I have several German skull and snakes rings. The one I posted here is the first one I saw with a Russian hallmark.
Here's another (German) skull and snakes ring ad. Some people called these 'Wehrwolf' rings.
Stephen
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russians rings with skull produced and it was not one type, I have 4-6 different rings
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Russians, Americans,,, we all like our S&S rings!! ,,and true ,there are all sorts of patterns / variants etc. - [Yes, thats a great advert too Stephen]... I've seen skull & snake rings from Roman times in museums in Europe... Russian hallmarks 1908 - 1926: https://www.925-1000.com/Frussia_kokoshnik_01.html
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russians rings with skull produced and it was not one type, I have 4-6 different rings Would you post a photo/photos or your Russian skull rings Evgeniy? I would love to see them. Stephen
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here russians rings all original
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Those are beauties Evgeniy. Thanks for posting. There are definite similarities to some of the German patterns. Presumably, the Russian rings will have Russian hallmarks.
Stephen
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this rings was made BEFORE Germans ))) before 1917 year Russian empire
all rings have Russia hallmark
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here is original skull ring that u showed at start of topic. the skull is hollow, soldered, the seam is visible.
There are cut holes near the snakes, and there are uncut holes
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Nice rings......Evgeniy......thank you for showing them
Ric
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Guys,,heres one of mine. Given to me by a neighbor in Ukraine years ago.
- In a little old box,,, with some cotton wadding in it..
Very thin,,hollow skull, Broken,,,but I like it..
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I have several photos I own of period photos of this ring.
Here is a pre revolution photo of the men and one wearing the ring..
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Those two look like movie stars! 🤩 Great photo.
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I mean shots of officers, for example - too the details of the rings are also not clearly visible, it is difficult to determine what is there, one can only assume that it looks like rings with skulls
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I mean shots of officers, for example - too the details of the rings are also not clearly visible, it is difficult to determine what is there, one can only assume that it looks like rings with skulls Zooming in on this guy's rings, I could be persuaded that, not only are they skull rings, but I also see a snake's head on each of them. Stephen
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All ring Evgeniy!! , and Stephen [good work!].... Not only a S&S ring but 2!!!
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