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Has anyone seen or have knowledge of the existence of a Death's Head on an Imperial sword, or TR piece.I have never seen one.However in Johnson and Whittman's Imperial sword book there is a photograph of such a piece carried by the crown prince. It seems to be a jawless lionhead with a death's head affixed on the P guard.Seems it would be quite a rare collectable. Wonder if the head was pinned or carved,and produced by whom.Are there any such animals in existence today?
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The only one(s) I have seen are early SS "nco" or ordinance sabers with the skull engraved or etched into the langet. I would think a high-ranking member of the nobility could have his sword decorated in any fashion he saw fit. I don't think it would be out of the ordinary for a skull to be affixed to or cast into the hilt for certain people. I agree that such a configuration would be quite rare.
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I've seen a few over the years,saw one for sale at SOS this year.All have been atributed to the 1st. or 2nd Hussars. On everyone I've seen the skull was afixed to the P guard.
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I had a "Hussar" piece several years ago with the skull in the blade etch. I have seen a few others, some with TWO skulls in the etch. Not a common sword.
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Service branch motifs are seen as an integral part of the hilt casting and as attachments. Not common, regimental �distinctions� usually are attachments and are seen with some regiments more than others. Regimental distinctions are also seen as etchings. Although almost all of the etched regimental blades are on enlisted men�s swords instead of officer�s models. FP
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Yes--the swords I mentioned above were the enlisted/NCO type
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In Paul Sanders' book, "Imperial German Hussars 1880-1910" there are a few photos of a Death's Head on an officer saber's P guard. Also, Dieter Heich's website has a Prussian Kavallerie KD 1889 mit Totenkopf for sale. On this saber, the Death's Head is on the blade and pertains to the Braunschweig Hussar Regiment (No. 17). FYI.
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Posting pic from the Dieter Heich website.
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Just offhand, my best recollection is that what might be considered interesting with the �Death�s Head motif� by Braunschweig is that it seems to have been borrowed from their English cousins. The state originally belonging to the English crown, with the �White Horse of Hannover� being seen on the British national coat of arms (including some sword blades) from that time period. After they parted ways Braunschweig continued to use the �Death�s Head� which also seems to have been adopted by others as time progressed. FP
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I had a chance to buy a sword exactly like the one pictured by
Stephane at the Pomona Military show last Nov. I wish now that I had.
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Coulda, shoulda, woulda.I hate when that happens.I think we`re all guilty of that!! 
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I have found that the biggest mistakes one makes in a collecting career-is what we did not buy--not what you would think. He who hesitates too much thinking he should not buy-most often wishes he had. 
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Bringing this old topic alive, as I finally found a sword of this unit, which was also called "the Black Corps" or "the Black Legion", because of their black uniforms.
We all know who they inspired later on...
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Here are some period images of these Braunsweig Hussars with their typical black uniforms and skull on their headgear.
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That's a very beautiful blade, Herman. Love the blued panel.
Regards, Wim
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WOW Herman!
That is one gorgeous sword!
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Wim, Mikee,
Thank you for your kind words!
On the other side of the blade, the deadhead Hussars are charging!
Herman
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