UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons SA & NSKK Dagger Forum Crossguard questions

Recently received in a lot of original parts these cross guards with recesses for the blades
2 are solid nickle silver and one plated one silver marked R-A and the plated marked H-A
There are no references to this type in any books but I have seen them described as RZM crossguards
anyone have any information as to whether this is correct and if so which makers used them
I only collect Eickhorn and have never seen them on any of there daggers.

Thank you

Will attatch photos when I figure out how

Surv.:

I think that the one you named as H-A - The bottom one in the above photo, is actually P-A

There is a guide to crossguards (and lots of other stuff) at the bottom in this forum:

https://www.germandaggers.com/Gallery/CG.php

Look that over and if you still have questions, post them here.

Dave

PS - nice to see you again

Thanks Dave yes I have seen that my question is about the blade recess on the lower face

From the earliest prototypes to last production, some crossguards had recesses for the blade and others did not. I have never seen any written regulation that require them. In addition, some of the recesses are just slight depressions while others are deeper. I don't know if the various early makers of guards produced them with or without recesses consistently.

Not much attention given in reference books, either.

Dave

Thank you Dave I appreciate the quick reply
These 3 are all of different shapes and depths from what appears to be all eras
not just RZM and as you say ignored in reference books
Thanks Again

Each producer had their niche in creation that sets them apart from other producers.
I studied eye through research ..a collector will be able to identify just by looking at the dagger and know who produced it by the crossguards.
Not all producers but some..the most easily identfiable is Eickhorn, Boker ..3 Suhl producers and Haco. ...These named are the easiest.

PA marked guards are generically used on many daggers as well.
For me I like the recessed guards for a tight and clean blade shoulder fit.

The Unmarked ones are mid to late production period and that raised round dot is an injection mold point. There is no identity of these later guards

Regards Larry